Not having it myself, maybe singing the song every home game on 20 minutes doesn't help but people go through grief and tragedy every day but I think it's highly unlikely that enough of them are suffering to the extent it's affecting the club to this level.
Plus most of the new signings have been poor, they didn't even know Jota, and Salah and VVD are simply one contract too many, I think it's pretty poor the amount of times Jota's even being used as an excuse.
Unfortunately I think it's getting like Hillsborough where you won't be able to say anything to them this season and they'll weaponise their grief for Jota and say anyone laughing at their form is disrespecting him and laughing at him.
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Re: Liverpool being bellends
They poor at the end of last season, so I'm not buying it either.
Simple fact is that TAA leaving has hurt them and Salah has finally dropped off a cliff which his age dictates should happen at this point.
They weren't good last season. Salah just bailed them out and all the top teams were poor.
Simple fact is that TAA leaving has hurt them and Salah has finally dropped off a cliff which his age dictates should happen at this point.
They weren't good last season. Salah just bailed them out and all the top teams were poor.
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Re: Liverpool being bellends
Yeah totally agree with that, last year they were worst Champions ever. Shite but with magic moments - mainly Salah.
Fucked it going for Isak so much like they did, should have spent time getting defence sorted, because they already had Etikikeefkfkjk or whatever his name is.
They just wanted to throw their bollocks around and its fucked them.
Also agree that its not THE reason why they are so bad right now. But it feels a bit shit to say its having no effect on them whatsoever.
Fucked it going for Isak so much like they did, should have spent time getting defence sorted, because they already had Etikikeefkfkjk or whatever his name is.
They just wanted to throw their bollocks around and its fucked them.
Also agree that its not THE reason why they are so bad right now. But it feels a bit shit to say its having no effect on them whatsoever.
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I don't think the Jota thing is affecting them whatsoever.
The players were fine when they were getting last minute winners at the start of the season, but now they're on a bad run the Jota stuff is getting blamed. To be honest, I think it's deeply insulting for them (players or fans) to weaponize a person's death to hide horrendous performances, wild tactical errors from the manager and a mismanaged summer transfer window.
Liverpool's form hasn't been that good for most of 2025, even before Jota died. They coasted to the league on their early season form, and on the inconsistency of the other big teams. They were pretty average between February and May. They lost to teams like Plymouth and Fulham in that period. Their last 4 games of the season were 2 defeats and 2 draws. And that form has largely continued into this season. They were lucky to win a number of those game at the start of the season, and now they're getting thoroughly outplayed by teams as diverse at Man City, Palace and Forest.
There's a load of issues, most of them self-inflicted.
Allison gets injured every season, and the backup keeper isn't that good. Bradley is nowhere near TAAs level, and Frimpong is not a full-back. He doesn't want to be in his own half. To cover for that they're playing their best player, Szoboszlai, at right back most games.
Konate's head is in Madrid. VVD is great when everything is going well, but when it's not he's like a petulant child blaming everyone else, while making his own errors. Robertson is pretty much finished, and Kerkez is being completely misused by Slot. He should be an overlapping full-back bombing on into space, and instead Gakpo holds the width and never passes to him (or anyone).
Gravenberch is good, but he's not steely enough as a DM to break up opposition attacks. He's more of a ball-playing 6. They're far too easy to bully and play through in the middle. Szoboszlai should be in there, because he's one of their best players physically.
Then you have Salah, who's a fading force and is happily collecting 400k a week. There's no natural backup for him, so he plays all the time regardless of form. Added to that the manager doesn't know how to use Wirtz, and has played him in about 4 different positions already, when he's clearly an AMC. He may also be too lightweight for the Prem, unless he has powerful, physical midfielders around him (which he doesn't).
On top of that they didn't need both Isak and Ekitike. One of them would've be fine. The manager feels pressured to play Isak because of the fee, despite him absolutely stinking the place out and despite Ekitike actually playing well and deserving his place. They don't create chances for the striker because neither Gakpo nor Salah wants to create. They both want to dribble inwards and shoot.
And then on top of that Slot really isn't that good. He's got carried away with himself because they easily won a poor quality Prem last year, with all the other big teams imploding and he's clearly thought ''I'll just buy a load of super expensive attack minded players (even the full-backs) and we'll just batter everyone with total football''. You can see this from the way he uses subs when they fall behind. His only solution is to put about 7 attackers on the pitch, leaving them even more exposed. It's wildly naïve.
They are absolutely rubbish without the ball now. For all their limitations, Darwin Nunez and Diaz were elite pressers without the ball and did so much of that unsung work off the ball. Salah and Isak can't and won't press. You can play through and around them with ease, and then the midfield behind them isn't physical and robust enough.
They signed some really good players in the summer, but on the whole they absolutely fucked up the transfer window. They signed the wrong replacements for the wrong positions, and the manager is managing their resources absolutely terribly.
The players were fine when they were getting last minute winners at the start of the season, but now they're on a bad run the Jota stuff is getting blamed. To be honest, I think it's deeply insulting for them (players or fans) to weaponize a person's death to hide horrendous performances, wild tactical errors from the manager and a mismanaged summer transfer window.
Liverpool's form hasn't been that good for most of 2025, even before Jota died. They coasted to the league on their early season form, and on the inconsistency of the other big teams. They were pretty average between February and May. They lost to teams like Plymouth and Fulham in that period. Their last 4 games of the season were 2 defeats and 2 draws. And that form has largely continued into this season. They were lucky to win a number of those game at the start of the season, and now they're getting thoroughly outplayed by teams as diverse at Man City, Palace and Forest.
There's a load of issues, most of them self-inflicted.
Allison gets injured every season, and the backup keeper isn't that good. Bradley is nowhere near TAAs level, and Frimpong is not a full-back. He doesn't want to be in his own half. To cover for that they're playing their best player, Szoboszlai, at right back most games.
Konate's head is in Madrid. VVD is great when everything is going well, but when it's not he's like a petulant child blaming everyone else, while making his own errors. Robertson is pretty much finished, and Kerkez is being completely misused by Slot. He should be an overlapping full-back bombing on into space, and instead Gakpo holds the width and never passes to him (or anyone).
Gravenberch is good, but he's not steely enough as a DM to break up opposition attacks. He's more of a ball-playing 6. They're far too easy to bully and play through in the middle. Szoboszlai should be in there, because he's one of their best players physically.
Then you have Salah, who's a fading force and is happily collecting 400k a week. There's no natural backup for him, so he plays all the time regardless of form. Added to that the manager doesn't know how to use Wirtz, and has played him in about 4 different positions already, when he's clearly an AMC. He may also be too lightweight for the Prem, unless he has powerful, physical midfielders around him (which he doesn't).
On top of that they didn't need both Isak and Ekitike. One of them would've be fine. The manager feels pressured to play Isak because of the fee, despite him absolutely stinking the place out and despite Ekitike actually playing well and deserving his place. They don't create chances for the striker because neither Gakpo nor Salah wants to create. They both want to dribble inwards and shoot.
And then on top of that Slot really isn't that good. He's got carried away with himself because they easily won a poor quality Prem last year, with all the other big teams imploding and he's clearly thought ''I'll just buy a load of super expensive attack minded players (even the full-backs) and we'll just batter everyone with total football''. You can see this from the way he uses subs when they fall behind. His only solution is to put about 7 attackers on the pitch, leaving them even more exposed. It's wildly naïve.
They are absolutely rubbish without the ball now. For all their limitations, Darwin Nunez and Diaz were elite pressers without the ball and did so much of that unsung work off the ball. Salah and Isak can't and won't press. You can play through and around them with ease, and then the midfield behind them isn't physical and robust enough.
They signed some really good players in the summer, but on the whole they absolutely fucked up the transfer window. They signed the wrong replacements for the wrong positions, and the manager is managing their resources absolutely terribly.
Re: Liverpool being bellends
Some players and staff will be affected by it but when you're grieving you're not permanently walking around in a state of grief and most of the time you carry on and manage to go about your daily job and life as normal. I don't mean to desensitise it but he'll have known a few of the players for the five years he was there, some for half that time, some for only a short time so it's not like we're talking about a guy who was lifelong friends with them all, he'll have been close with some and not with others. I just think it's an ageing squad, some new additions that haven't worked out and a manager who maybe had the benefit of living off the back of Klopp's work and now it's starting to fall apart a bit for him.
It is classic Liverpool to use something like this though, which is why I think so many people are bit suspicious of their (and the wider media's) reasons for using it as an excuse.
It is classic Liverpool to use something like this though, which is why I think so many people are bit suspicious of their (and the wider media's) reasons for using it as an excuse.
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Audrey Horne
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Re: Liverpool being bellends
I think both things can be true. Some of the players and staff will be affected by Jota's death, and it absolutely shouldn't be used as an excuse of poor performances.