Dominic Calvert-Lewin
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I do wonder what teams would come in for him in a years time. Presumably a team that didn't need to rely on him being fit because they have a lot of depth...those are usually the bigger clubs, but it's a slightly odd one as just based on form he'd not really expect to get into those sides.
Clearly even the big clubs these days like a bargain too with financial rules being what they are, so I'd not be surprised if one of them snapped him up on the cheap (Man United and Newcastle have seemingly shown some interest) but I'm not convinced it'd work out super well for both parties (at least if he wanted regular playing time). I could see it being a little bit like Richarlison's situation. I don't really have anything against him no matter how it works out (barring him scoring against us) but it might be another of those where the grass maybe isn't greener particularly if he wants regularly playing time.
Maybe I'm doing him a disservice though, it always feels hard to rate forwards here as right now we don't tend to give them copious opportunities to score per game, it's usually just one or two so there is always that slight question mark of if he was served loads of chances as he might get in a more attacking side would he get his confidence up and get much better returns.
Clearly even the big clubs these days like a bargain too with financial rules being what they are, so I'd not be surprised if one of them snapped him up on the cheap (Man United and Newcastle have seemingly shown some interest) but I'm not convinced it'd work out super well for both parties (at least if he wanted regular playing time). I could see it being a little bit like Richarlison's situation. I don't really have anything against him no matter how it works out (barring him scoring against us) but it might be another of those where the grass maybe isn't greener particularly if he wants regularly playing time.
Maybe I'm doing him a disservice though, it always feels hard to rate forwards here as right now we don't tend to give them copious opportunities to score per game, it's usually just one or two so there is always that slight question mark of if he was served loads of chances as he might get in a more attacking side would he get his confidence up and get much better returns.
Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin
He's worth a punt for most teams, especially on a free. Shown a high level in the past whilst he has a lot of attributes that are good even if he isn't scoring. Potentially a couple of seasons of injuries behind him then I think plenty of top clubs would take a chance on him. If you're DCL and looking at Hojlund and Zirkzee at Man United then that's not the most intimidating competition. Arsenal could even come in at that point.blueToffee wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:14 pm I do wonder what teams would come in for him in a years time. Presumably a team that didn't need to rely on him being fit because they have a lot of depth...those are usually the bigger clubs, but it's a slightly odd one as just based on form he'd not really expect to get into those sides.
Clearly even the big clubs these days like a bargain too with financial rules being what they are, so I'd not be surprised if one of them snapped him up on the cheap (Man United and Newcastle have seemingly shown some interest) but I'm not convinced it'd work out super well for both parties (at least if he wanted regular playing time). I could see it being a little bit like Richarlison's situation. I don't really have anything against him no matter how it works out (barring him scoring against us) but it might be another of those where the grass maybe isn't greener particularly if he wants regularly playing time.
Maybe I'm doing him a disservice though, it always feels hard to rate forwards here as right now we don't tend to give them copious opportunities to score per game, it's usually just one or two so there is always that slight question mark of if he was served loads of chances as he might get in a more attacking side would he get his confidence up and get much better returns.
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Do you think he'd do well at a bigger club? Just curious. Not the same thing, but I remember how Fellaini never seemed to get on the good side of the Man United fans. I think those fans have been a bit spoilt in the past and not always appreciative of certain styles of player. I imagine Arsenal fans would be a bit the same.Shogun wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:44 pm He's worth a punt for most teams, especially on a free. Shown a high level in the past whilst he has a lot of attributes that are good even if he isn't scoring. Potentially a couple of seasons of injuries behind him then I think plenty of top clubs would take a chance on him. If you're DCL and looking at Hojlund and Zirkzee at Man United then that's not the most intimidating competition. Arsenal could even come in at that point.
I do think there is a little bit of a dearth of top, top quality strikers right now though. I'd put DCL in the bracket of Toney or Solanke (last one is a question mark depending on how he gets on next couple of seasons), all certainly capable but perhaps a step below what the top 6 might usually go for in the past.
Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Not sure I follow your maths there.
We sell him for 20m (which would require a club to to actually offer us that, a possibility, but not happening yet it seems) what could we get for that? Beto was valued at 26m wasn't he, and he's hardly ready made. I don't see how it helps us get a proven striker, which is what is need.
And suppose we get relegated, which is still a possibility if we don't start scoring, there's - £100m+ and the club, we'll i dont want to think about it, honestly.
Sell now it will probably just go into running costs that will fall due before seasons out. We have to sell again soon to pay the bills.
Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin
I think he'd definitely go well at another club with more quality around him.blueToffee wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:43 pm Do you think he'd do well at a bigger club? Just curious. Not the same thing, but I remember how Fellaini never seemed to get on the good side of the Man United fans. I think those fans have been a bit spoilt in the past and not always appreciative of certain styles of player. I imagine Arsenal fans would be a bit the same.
I do think there is a little bit of a dearth of top, top quality strikers right now though. I'd put DCL in the bracket of Toney or Solanke (last one is a question mark depending on how he gets on next couple of seasons), all certainly capable but perhaps a step below what the top 6 might usually go for in the past.
He struggles here as his workload is beyond what it should be and he's not quite playing at those levels any more.
He scored under Ancelotti when he had numerous quality ball-deliverers, and played very much in the box between the posts.
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Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin
He'd be attractive to some of the big clubs in the smaller leagues; the likes of Porto, Celtic and maybe Galatasary. The easier workload may suit him although wages may be an issue.
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Going to get our pants pulled down next week as Dyche admits to might be forced to sell him if an offer comes in...
Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Think if anyone offers near 25 mil he's gone. Rightly so if he's not going to sign a deal.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/ar ... e-finances
Sean Dyche has said Everton’s financial situation may force them to accept an offer for Dominic Calvert-Lewin next week despite his desire to keep the centre-forward.
The Everton manager would be loth to lose Calvert-Lewin, the club’s top scorer last season in all competitions, but also powerless to keep him should a tempting bid arrive before next Friday’s deadline. The centre-forward has entered the final year of his Everton contract having resisted signing an extension due to the uncertainty over the club’s future. With no resolution in sight – the American billionaire John Textor would still have several hurdles to overcome even if he agrees a deal to buy Farhad Moshiri’s majority shareholding – Dyche admits Everton’s finances could dictate a sale.
“Any offer of a certain level would have to be still looked at by the club,” the Everton manager said when asked about Calvert-Lewin’s future. “We are in a better position because of player trading and how much we have lowered the wages but it is not solved. Therefore there would still be a moment where the big people at the club get a phone call and then it is down to them.
“I can give a football opinion. I think we would all go: ‘We don’t need to be selling anyone at the minute’ but that doesn’t mean that happens. The powers that be are still not in a position where they can go: ‘We are fine, we can start bankrolling the club and we are going to sign players,’ as you can quite obviously tell.”
Newcastle were interested in Calvert-Lewin earlier in the summer but were unable to agree personal terms with the 27-year-old. The Newcastle full-back, Kieran Trippier has been linked with a move to Everton but Dyche, his former manager at Burnley, said “there’s not much more wriggle room” for further signings at Goodison Park.
Dyche, who may struggle to fill the bench at Tottenham on Saturday due to injuries and suspension, said: “If we had some money and could look across the market at players we would look at many different positions, but we wouldn’t look at right-back straight away because of the players we have here. You can never guarantee with injuries but Youngy [Ashley Young] will be back [after serving a one-match ban at Spurs] and Séamus [Coleman] is making good progress. About right-backs, it has to build the team going forwards and not just one game.”
Sean Dyche has said Everton’s financial situation may force them to accept an offer for Dominic Calvert-Lewin next week despite his desire to keep the centre-forward.
The Everton manager would be loth to lose Calvert-Lewin, the club’s top scorer last season in all competitions, but also powerless to keep him should a tempting bid arrive before next Friday’s deadline. The centre-forward has entered the final year of his Everton contract having resisted signing an extension due to the uncertainty over the club’s future. With no resolution in sight – the American billionaire John Textor would still have several hurdles to overcome even if he agrees a deal to buy Farhad Moshiri’s majority shareholding – Dyche admits Everton’s finances could dictate a sale.
“Any offer of a certain level would have to be still looked at by the club,” the Everton manager said when asked about Calvert-Lewin’s future. “We are in a better position because of player trading and how much we have lowered the wages but it is not solved. Therefore there would still be a moment where the big people at the club get a phone call and then it is down to them.
“I can give a football opinion. I think we would all go: ‘We don’t need to be selling anyone at the minute’ but that doesn’t mean that happens. The powers that be are still not in a position where they can go: ‘We are fine, we can start bankrolling the club and we are going to sign players,’ as you can quite obviously tell.”
Newcastle were interested in Calvert-Lewin earlier in the summer but were unable to agree personal terms with the 27-year-old. The Newcastle full-back, Kieran Trippier has been linked with a move to Everton but Dyche, his former manager at Burnley, said “there’s not much more wriggle room” for further signings at Goodison Park.
Dyche, who may struggle to fill the bench at Tottenham on Saturday due to injuries and suspension, said: “If we had some money and could look across the market at players we would look at many different positions, but we wouldn’t look at right-back straight away because of the players we have here. You can never guarantee with injuries but Youngy [Ashley Young] will be back [after serving a one-match ban at Spurs] and Séamus [Coleman] is making good progress. About right-backs, it has to build the team going forwards and not just one game.”
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