Dyche - HE'S GONE

[TheRam]

Any good business people would look at the situation and try to hang on to the end of the season to avoid the payout so I can understand them not making the decision.

Dyche may well force them into making that decision though.

We’re on course to get a points total that has you very much in trouble in past seasons. We might get lucky in that there’s three worse teams that us but that’s all we have going for us.

All it takes is one bad week for our position to look precarious.

Also sounds like dyche is distancing himself from everything. Throwing the players under the bus, saying he doesn’t know anything about plans for January.

He’s dragged the players down to his level this season. Outside of Lampard this has been the worst first half of a season I can remember.

Even in 94 we got off to a great start.

Even Rafa had us thinking of europe at one stage.

This has been pure shite from the start and all the warning signs were there that it was going to get worse before it got better.

[777Kidnappings]

He isn't going. Not now, not if we get beat by Bournemouth and probably not if we lose the 1 after that too.

It was an awful watch yesterday and much of it is on the manager but by God the players are crap too. There's no real evidence to suggest these players are capable of much more either. Just about everything at the club needs replacing

[TheRam]

Watching match of the day last night and every team had the same set up on the ball.

Three defensive players staying back at all times creating a three at the back meaning you can throw players forward whilst being solid when hit on the counter.

Some teams will have a full back in the three, so the one on the other side can bomb on.

Some have three centre halves so both full backs get high and wide.

Others move a midfielder into the three.

What do we have? Two static full backs, nobody picking the ball off the back four, so all you have is a telegraphed pass outwide with a load of hit and hope crosses with nothing else.

When we’re chasing a game we lose all shape and have tarkowski and Brathwaite constantly out of position.

He’s so far behind the modern workings of the game. Just all 451/442, straight lines, defensive wingers, long ball, pick up the scraps and go from there.

[TheRam]

He isn't going. Not now, not if we get beat by Bournemouth and probably not if we lose the 1 after that too.

It was an awful watch yesterday and much of it is on the manager but by God the players are crap too. There's no real evidence to suggest these players are capable of much more either. Just about everything at the club needs replacing

Just the evidence from last season.

[Trowel]

[bigmanbob]

Fuck me

[Big Nevs Vaz]

He isn't going. Not now, not if we get beat by Bournemouth and probably not if we lose the 1 after that too.

It was an awful watch yesterday and much of it is on the manager but by God the players are crap too. There's no real evidence to suggest these players are capable of much more either. Just about everything at the club needs replacing

9 points worse off than last season with a marginally improved squad this year. It’s understandable that some might have very low expectations after years of this drudgery.

[777Kidnappings]

Just the evidence from last season.

So 1 season in about 6. Think that's the exception rather than the rule. These players are bad.

People push for Patterson but 4 managers in a row haven't picked him. Our 2 main strikers spent massive amount of time out injures since they last performed well. Ndyaies success in in the championship he failed in France. Lindstrom is about 60 games without a goal. It's a leap of faith to be convinced the manager is holding this lot back. They are shite too. We've signed a load of dross

The manager has to go. I'm leaning towards now so the next man gets the transfer window but do any of us really see a decent everton playing any of our current full backs, wingers, doucoure or strikers. They are all fucking rotten too

[TheRam]

So 1 season in about 6. Think that's the exception rather than the rule. These players are bad.

People push for Patterson but 4 managers in a row haven't picked him. Our 2 main strikers spent massive amount of time out injures since they last performed well. Ndyaies success in in the championship he failed in France. Lindstrom is about 60 games without a goal. It's a leap of faith to be convinced the manager is holding this lot back. They are shite too. We've signed a load of dross

The manager has to go. I'm leaning towards now so the next man gets the transfer window but do any of us really see a decent everton playing any of our current full backs, wingers, doucoure or strikers. They are all fucking rotten too

No. Last season where the same group of players performed a lot better with the same manager.

That’s your evidence. Right there.

[AjaxAndy]

He won't be sacked after picking up a decent haul over the past 5 games Vs what would have been expected. However watching us yesterday and then MOTD today I think it's time, it's just not going anywhere this season and there's nothing to look forward to other than hopefully breathing a sigh of relief once the final ball is kicked.

Time to start enjoying watching us play footy again, life's too short to watch this turgid crap week in week out.

[777Kidnappings]

No. Last season where the same group of players performed a lot better with the same manager.

That’s your evidence. Right there.

Can that evidence be used in defence of the manager too. There's much more evidence that they are crap than they aren't.

These players have been consistently rubbish over a number of seasons. For us and for other teams. There's barely anyone who's had an premier league success not under dyche who isn't old as fuck or hasn't had a long term injury

[brap2]

I've got some evidence for ya

[Kerryblueboy]

So 1 season in about 6. Think that's the exception rather than the rule. These players are bad.

People push for Patterson but 4 managers in a row haven't picked him. Our 2 main strikers spent massive amount of time out injures since they last performed well. Ndyaies success in in the championship he failed in France. Lindstrom is about 60 games without a goal. It's a leap of faith to be convinced the manager is holding this lot back. They are shite too. We've signed a load of dross

The manager has to go. I'm leaning towards now so the next man gets the transfer window but do any of us really see a decent everton playing any of our current full backs, wingers, doucoure or strikers. They are all fucking rotten too

Can’t help yourself throwing Patterson into the argument he is miles ahead of our options going forward and a new manager will play him and get the best out of him same with o Brien dyche is a football dinosaur who has to go

[Raptor]

Can that evidence be used in defence of the manager too. There's much more evidence that they are crap than they aren't.

These players have been consistently rubbish over a number of seasons. For us and for other teams. There's barely anyone who's had an premier league success not under dyche who isn't old as fuck or hasn't had a long term injury

Personally, I think any manager with his approach has a short shelf life with any squad. I'd be amazed if you asked any footballer in the world if they dreamt about playing Dyche ball, it's fucking depressing, and being constantly drilled to defend, to be compact, to suck the life out of the game will go against pretty much every instinct they have as a footballer, and it shouldn't be the way we play, imo.
I don't think players are not giving their all or trying to do what's asked, but I do suspect they have all had enough of this tedious approach to playing football.
The players aren't rubbish, you have full international players all over the pitch, but the life and enjoyment of playing football has well and truly been sucked out of all of them

[777Kidnappings]

Can’t help yourself throwing Patterson into the argument he is miles ahead of our options going forward and a new manager will play him and get the best out of him same with o Brien dyche is a football dinosaur who has to go

I mean come on. I doubt you've ever even seen o brien play a competitive 90 minutes. Saying these players are probably duds isn't some outlandish claim