Tyler Dibling

[AjaxAndy]

Everyone has been talking about Grealish and that he needed the love he got from Moyes and from the fans to get back on track- well Dibling is the same kind of player. Without the love and for sure the forgiveness for all his errors he will never succeed.

The pedigree, reputation and for all he already has achieved Grealish will not be turned against - but sadly that won't be the case for Dibling.

Dibling is - like Grealish - a player that needs to try - and to try you need confidence - to get confidence you need trust and being assured that you are allowed to fail. Dibling does not have that trust from his manager and maybe not from a lot of the fans as well. Unfortunately we all know that he is not very vocal and that he has been homesick before which makes it even harder for him to succeed.

I fancy him and I think he has a bright future but I cannot grasp why we bought him. To succeed he would have needed that unconditional love that Moyes has given KDH and Grealish but Dibling won't get it. He never got it - instead he has been treated as an academy player without any PL experience.

Ofcourse - you could say its early days, he is just a kid but we have taken the love, the confidence and the attitude out of this young man and very often that means it can't be installed back without changing the environment. I hope I am wrong but I dont think he will ever make it at Everton.

Moyes won't love you if you don't work hard though, and he's been challenging Dibling since he arrived to work harder in training.

KDH and Grealish both graft and long term that's something that Dibling needs to add to his game so he avoids shockers like yesterday. I think Moyes has it right with him tbh, and it's up to the player to learn that side if he wants to achieve his potential

[TrevorSteven]

Moyes won't love you if you don't work hard though, and he's been challenging Dibling since he arrived to work harder in training.

KDH and Grealish both graft and long term that's something that Dibling needs to add to his game so he avoids shockers like yesterday. I think Moyes has it right with him tbh, and it's up to the player to learn that side if he wants to achieve his potential

I kind of agree with you and that is why I dont understand why we went for him this summer. He does not have any of the Moyes-criteria to his DNA. If Moyes is to make him a grafter and a fighter he will loose his attacking skills. You can already see it. At Southampton he would just have gone for it. Try to skip past a couple of defenders - now he is more afraid of loosing the ball than to create anything.

So right now Moyes has just ended up making him worse in attack while still pretty clueless defending. I can't see that Moyes actually wanted Dibling this summer - probably not Barry either.

[Toddacelli]

Are there waves though. He had a 7 out of 10 against forest thats the highlight.

I get that young players are going to have big dips but ours arent having the ups. I dont think there's been a single game for barry or dibbling were they've really played well. They've both been pretty consistent and not in a good way. Granted dibbling hasn't played a lot but that's probably quite telling too

Mate. Come on. 7/10 performance was the highlight?

I’m not going to argue with the rating - I’d say that’s a fair enough assessment, but you are selling the lad way short with that.

It’s not the fact that in one game he was rated 7/10, it’s what he’s actually doing on the ball, the fact that nobody else bar Grealish and Ndiaye can do it, and the fact that each time he has a game where he’s involved - we see progression and improvement.

If you’re not seeing that not excited by it and where it could go, then I don’t know what enjoyment you get from the game, because that 7/10 performance from him was what I have loved most about our season so far.

[dazfrancis]

Are there waves though. He had a 7 out of 10 against forest thats the highlight.

I get that young players are going to have big dips but ours arent having the ups. I dont think there's been a single game for barry or dibbling were they've really played well. They've both been pretty consistent and not in a good way. Granted dibbling hasn't played a lot but that's probably quite telling too

Barry hasn't been as bad you make out and is now starting to bag some goals. He's probably playing more than we planned but it will ultimately benefit us.

Dibbling needs to play more, I think he's shown exactly why we spent all that money for him but also why he hasn't been playing regularly.

That's what you get if you buy young. Especially teenager young.