Scouting/recruitment

[777Kidnappings]

I'd say Barry getting double figures in La Liga suggests huge potential... Apart from one horrific miss I also think his finishing has been pretty good, can't think of any real chances he's missed I'd expect him to have scored apart from that one. We don't create many opportunities for him but he looks a pretty natural finisher.

Rohl has barely played so I don't think any judgements can be made on him.

I think something people overlook is that the combined wages of Rohl, Barry and Aznou will likely be less or equal to what we were paying Doucoure. So we can afford some not to work out, we aren't going to be hamstrung by their wages like we have been with so many players on long term deals, and it only takes one to be a standout to break even or make a profit on the combined transfer fees.

Imagine in 2 years time if Rohl becomes a good solid squad player, Aznou develops in to a regular starter and Barry scores 12-15 goals that season and we sell for £70m... You can afford Dibling to be a flop because their combined wages were that of one or one and a half of a Doucoure and Tosun, yet we make a massive profit overall.

It's why I'm more than willing to give this approach patience and time to play out. You won't see results quickly but also the potential of long term problems is majorly reduced.

I think Barry is a good finisher. I agree there but I think the rest of his game has been pretty poor. I think hes the 1 im least confident about

Dibbling obviously has talent. Think some of his current problem is his game, like grealishs requires more from the player behind him. Think hes a premier league player. Not sure he'll make it much beyond what we paid though

I quite like rohl. Think his energy is something we desperately lack in the squad. Probably not going to turn out great but probably be useful squad player assuming he can stay fit

Aznou. Hes a cheap punt. I missed his performance in the cup but it appears hes definitely worth the small transfer fee we risked

I dont really have a problem with any of them individually. Not sure its the best scouting but probably won't lose much if anything on them as a whole. Do think all of them together for us at the moment isnt good for us and probably hasn't been good for them so far. I think 3 of the 4 will be okay but probably not good enough to justify the money, time and short term pain

Im most excited by armstrong

[Fynci]

The one I’m most worried about is Dibling and that’s more to do with his demeanour - he seems totally disinterested and isn’t putting much effort in at the moment but that could be down to being a bit overwhelmed by everything (fee, moving to a big club, expectations, etc. etc.) due to his age. Also worrying that he’s reported to have struggled previously. That said it’s very early days.

I think we’ll see more of what Barry can do next season, I think there have been some promising signs, he just wasn’t ready to be chucked in and expected to perform immediately

How they get involved on the pitch has definitely helped me form where I am. Barry is involved, he does stuff and doesn’t shy away. He’s the kind of player that I have no qualms in the club spending time on his development. Dibling is the worry for me. His showings so far tell me he isn’t an Everton player.

[Milky1971]

Our head of recruitment didn’t start until September 2025 so he’s not even had a window to do anything, let alone a proper summer

I’m willing to give them more than zero opportunities before making any judgements

What about all the scouts that are putting these names forward

[Milky1971]

I'd say Barry getting double figures in La Liga suggests huge potential... Apart from one horrific miss I also think his finishing has been pretty good, can't think of any real chances he's missed I'd expect him to have scored apart from that one. We don't create many opportunities for him but he looks a pretty natural finisher.

Rohl has barely played so I don't think any judgements can be made on him.

I think something people overlook is that the combined wages of Rohl, Barry and Aznou will likely be less or equal to what we were paying Doucoure. So we can afford some not to work out, we aren't going to be hamstrung by their wages like we have been with so many players on long term deals, and it only takes one to be a standout to break even or make a profit on the combined transfer fees.

Imagine in 2 years time if Rohl becomes a good solid squad player, Aznou develops in to a regular starter and Barry scores 12-15 goals that season and we sell for £70m... You can afford Dibling to be a flop because their combined wages were that of one or one and a half of a Doucoure and Tosun, yet we make a massive profit overall.

It's why I'm more than willing to give this approach patience and time to play out. You won't see results quickly but also the potential of long term problems is majorly reduced.

Let’s imagine all 3 fail

55 million on transfer 125k a week on wages

That money could have been better spent on 1 quality striker abd we we woukd be top 6 comfortably

[Cereal Killer]

What about all the scouts that are putting these names forward

What about them?

[Milky1971]

What about them?

Shouldn’t they be held responsible

[AjaxAndy]

Let’s imagine all 3 fail

55 million on transfer 125k a week on wages

That money could have been better spent on 1 quality striker abd we we woukd be top 6 comfortably

Yeah that's a possibility, but we also couldn't spend £55m on a striker and not bother buying players to fill all the squad holes left by 11 departures in the summer, so not sure how that would have worked in your scenario?

But I do think we need a mix, you can't only buy potential and you can't only buy players who are ready and experienced. It's a blend, which we managed with KDH and Grealish alongside the younger signings. So I'd be happy to go again in a similar fashion in the summer.

[Cereal Killer]

Shouldn’t they be held responsible

For?

Putting some players down on a list we should maybe look at?

[Milky1971]

For?

Putting some players down on a list we should maybe look at?

Yes

If I went to my boss with shit ideas constantly I wouldn’t have a job

[Milky1971]

Yeah that's a possibility, but we also couldn't spend £55m on a striker and not bother buying players to fill all the squad holes left by 11 departures in the summer, so not sure how that would have worked in your scenario?

But I do think we need a mix, you can't only buy potential and you can't only buy players who are ready and experienced. It's a blend, which we managed with KDH and Grealish alongside the younger signings. So I'd be happy to go again in a similar fashion in the summer.

Was Rohl needed when we had Armstrong

Was dibling needed when we had Alcaraz and Ndiaye on the right

Wasted opportunity imo

[Evertonian418]

How can Man City buy a player a couple weeks ago who scores last night and at the weekend in the FA cup and we have two donkeys up front. Who is head of our recruitment team Stevie Wonder?

[Cereal Killer]

Yes

If I went to my boss with shit ideas constantly I wouldn’t have a job

Just clutching at stuff we don’t know

Was it one scout who listed all the names? Or 5 scouts gave 5 separate names?

How high on the list was the name? As we tried for a whole bunch of players that turned us down I’d wager not very high

If the scouts only ever listed sure things for fear of being canned, we’d have very short lists of players that would be completely unattainable for us

Not sure pinning anything on some scout that gets paid less than a teacher is worth worrying about

[Cereal Killer]

How can Man City buy a player a couple weeks ago who scores last night and at the weekend in the FA cup and we have two donkeys up front. Who is head of our recruitment team Stevie Wonder?

Because they’re Man City, multiple Premier League winners, Champions League winners, one of the worlds best managers and basically unlimited money

We’re Everton

[AjaxAndy]

Was Rohl needed when we had Armstrong

Was dibling needed when we had Alcaraz and Ndiaye on the right

Wasted opportunity imo

Was Rohl needed? Dunno, who would have played in CM instead of him against Sunderland if we hadn't signed him?

Was Dibling needed? No probably not, at least not on what he's shown so far. He was a high priced domestic player though so I'd put him in a different bracket of our recruitment from Barry, Aznou and Rohl though.

[Risky]

Yes

If I went to my boss with shit ideas constantly I wouldn’t have a job

So you're wanting to see some scouts sacked then? That's basically what you think needs to happen?