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Escla wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:46 pmReally ?
Absolutely.

But all fans are like this as BD says.

It’s tiresome and I try to ignore it. I don’t particularly care what rio Ferdinand or Micah Richards have to say on anything.
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I wonder how much that Olmo lad is going to go for this summer
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NickNack wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:40 am In the interview I saw, after he mentioned the penalty scorers by name he did say “the goalkeeper will always make at least one save” although didn’t mention his name..
Yeah that was it, strange phrasing from Gareth, and I'm not sure it was based on reality either, given Pickford's opposite number didn't save any of their five and in many shoot-outs keepers don't save any of the first 5, moreso penalty takers actually miss the target.

Not suggesting anything other than possible deflection, and probably didn't want to attract more focus on Jordan and his water bottle.
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I really think there's nothing in it. Southgate has been unerringly loyal to Pickford for years, despite many times he has faced criticism, and has always selected him and relied on him for tournaments and big games. And in return Pickford has always delivered.

When he says ''the goalkeeper will always make at least one save'', he's not talking about general goalkeepers. He's referring to Pickford as his goalkeeper, and he's saying that he will always save at least one penalty (something I've heard said about Pickford by other people). It's a mark of respect.
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Cods wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:46 am Yeah that was it, strange phrasing from Gareth, and I'm not sure it was based on reality either, given Pickford's opposite number didn't save any of their five and in many shoot-outs keepers don't save any of the first 5, moreso penalty takers actually miss the target.

Not suggesting anything other than possible deflection, and probably didn't want to attract more focus on Jordan and his water bottle.
I took it that the ‘goalkeeper will always make at least one save’ comment was referring to Pickford and his recent record in shoot outs. It did seem a bit odd at the time that he mentioned all the scorers by name but don’t think there was anything in it…May just have been me but I thought Southgate was quite defensive and seemed ill at ease throughout the whole press conference
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Cods wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:46 am Yeah that was it, strange phrasing from Gareth, and I'm not sure it was based on reality either, given Pickford's opposite number didn't save any of their five and in many shoot-outs keepers don't save any of the first 5, moreso penalty takers actually miss the target.

Not suggesting anything other than possible deflection, and probably didn't want to attract more focus on Jordan and his water bottle.
Could even be a subtle message to the players that the keeper often saves penalties in shootouts and to not worry about missing as usually someone will?

He seems to have worked well on the psychology part of pens with the players so wording like this might be deliberate to ease any expectation and pressure on the takers.
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Bluedylan1 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:03 am I really think there's nothing in it. Southgate has been unerringly loyal to Pickford for years, despite many times he has faced criticism, and has always selected him and relied on him for tournaments and big games. And in return Pickford has always delivered.

When he says ''the goalkeeper will always make at least one save'', he's not talking about general goalkeepers. He's referring to Pickford as his goalkeeper, and he's saying that he will always save at least one penalty (something I've heard said about Pickford by other people). It's a mark of respect.
Yep, agree with that, as before I just thought it was a strange way of referencing, but not referencing, your own keeper who has a name, like everyone else he specifically named that took part in the shoot out. It kind of sounded (on the surface at least) to me like how a non-English manager (picturing Mourinho) might begrudgingly address the opposition keeper who had a good game after a loss, rather than highlighting a star player who performed very well. The respect and admiration for all of his players, particularly Pickford, is self-evident.

Not suggesting that there was anything necessarily in it, just that it came across a bit odd. I think AjaxAndy's thoughts on the psychology and media management are probably pretty close to the mark, and paraphrasing Ronay from his latest article, a keeper is only ever minutes away from error so let's not highlight him.
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Who we all supporting tonight then?

I have France in our family sweepstake but the idea of potentially an England Vs France final, and it going down as the most boring final ever puts me off backing them.

I'd rather Spain go through as it'd be a more interesting tactical battle if we get through, and if we don't Spain Vs Holland seems like it could be quite an entertaining match.
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I think we stand more of a chance vs France, so France for me
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Don’t really care.

Will be missing the second half tonight.

Think England can beat both teams tbh. But also lose to both teams just depends on the day.
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If you want England to win then you want France going through tonight for sure. I can't believe just how much better Spain have been than every other team so far this tournament.
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Bluedylan1 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:03 am I really think there's nothing in it. Southgate has been unerringly loyal to Pickford for years, despite many times he has faced criticism, and has always selected him and relied on him for tournaments and big games. And in return Pickford has always delivered.

When he says ''the goalkeeper will always make at least one save'', he's not talking about general goalkeepers. He's referring to Pickford as his goalkeeper, and he's saying that he will always save at least one penalty (something I've heard said about Pickford by other people). It's a mark of respect.
Snap! (About Pickford) & Posted at exactly the same time 😂
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Cant wait for tonight
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Be be fascinating to see if Yamal and Williams get any change out of this massively stingy French defence. Yamal v Theo Hernandez in particular could be a battle royale.

Also Rodri v Kante could be one for the ages.
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