Indiantoffee75 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:53 pm
He's had a pop at the fans and on Saturday he's thrown his players under the bus. Usually when that happens there isn't really a way out for anyone.
When did he have a pop at the fans?
What he said about the players was right, he was wrong not to take some ownership of his part, but he wasn't wrong about the players.
UnsyisaRhino wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:46 am
When did he have a pop at the fans?
What he said about the players was right, he was wrong not to take some ownership of his part, but he wasn't wrong about the players.
He is constantly deflecting the blame away from himself he fucked up on Saturday as much if not more than the players by not taking exhausted players off and shoring up the defence
TheRam wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:43 am
He isn’t though.
He took responsibility for the Chelsea game last season and set about looking at how he and his coaching team can change things.
He isn’t constantly deflecting. People who don’t like dyche just took his comments about the fans and created their own narrative.
He is constantly smelling ill say that much, he smells this he smells that.
He might want to smell the roses because he has the worst august record in the prem. In his decade in the prem he's not managed to work out how to start a season.
What’s all the I could smell it coming stuff about so if he could smell it coming why didn’t he change something he completely blamed the players and exonerated himself if you want to argue differently work away but that’s what he did
brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:46 am
He is constantly smelling ill say that much, he smells this he smells that.
He might want to smell the roses because he has the worst august record in the prem. In his decade in the prem he's not managed to work out how to start a season.
Think he’s consciously taken the decision to bin off any tactical improvements or work in favour of pure fitness fitness fitness in pre-season and if it means sacrificing the first few fixtures for gains further down the line then so be it
Might’ve worked in the past, who can really tell. With 5 subs instead of 3 though, having a peak physical squad isn’t such a big deal now
We've seen out loads of games with exhausted players under him so I don't buy the 'it's all on Dyche' narrative.
Heads went, it was yes maybe partially fatigue but it was 90% mental fragility.
There was no excuse whatsoever for not seeing that game out regardless of making subs or not... Tiredness doesn't make you concede 3 goals in 9 minutes and let's face it we were lucky it was only 3.
We gave up what 5 or 6 really good chances in 9 minutes as everyone stood around looking at each other hoping one of them would bail them out instead of standing up and delivering.
It was pathetic and whatever Dyche did or didn't do doesn't take away that fact that the players collectively shat the bed.
brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:46 am
He is constantly smelling ill say that much, he smells this he smells that.
He might want to smell the roses because he has the worst august record in the prem. In his decade in the prem he's not managed to work out how to start a season.
Yeah, that stat is a really poor one. Surely there's a way to prepare that doesn't involve losing 3/4 of the first 5 games.
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:17 pm
We've seen out loads of games with exhausted players under him so I don't buy the 'it's all on Dyche' narrative.
Heads went, it was yes maybe partially fatigue but it was 90% mental fragility.
There was no excuse whatsoever for not seeing that game out regardless of making subs or not... Tiredness doesn't make you concede 3 goals in 9 minutes and let's face it we were lucky it was only 3.
We gave up what 5 or 6 really good chances in 9 minutes as everyone stood around looking at each other hoping one of them would bail them out instead of standing up and delivering.
It was pathetic and whatever Dyche did or didn't do doesn't take away that fact that the players collectively shat the bed.
Yeah dyche is far from blameless for leaving tim and mcneil on when both were clearly blowing out of their arse.
However, the total capitulation that followed the 1st Bournemouth goal was shameful disgrace for a professional football club playing in an elite league.
The 1st thing that went against them in 87 mins and they turned to shit, that's not tiredness, that's being mentally weak and lacking any character whatsoever.
They went from dominating a decent team to a shambles in the blink of an eye.
Now every team that comes here will think they are never out of the game no matter how many they are behind, because they know if they get one anything can happen after that
Funny how some people on here blame Dyche …….some people blame the players…..
I think it was a combination of both….Dyche should of taken off the tired players and brought on subs to ensure the victory ie: put O’Brien into the back line making a back 5… shouldn’t have taken ndyia off so early….
Tarkowski or Coleman should’ve stepped up as captain and “demanded” the right changes…..
This would have kept both the energy levels and concentration levels to the required standard to see the game out….9 mins…
