David Moyes

[NickNack]

Grealish
Ndaiye
KDH
Gana
Branthwaite

All missing, and then you add in Alcaraz who's our backup 10, and Tim who's the only player who brings any dynamism when the player above are out.

Anyone getting pissed off maybe needs to take a second and consider how on earth we're supposed to do anything without all those available?

Learning how to kick the ball from the penalty spot would be a start. If I was Beto or Barry I’d be ashamed of myself. That and Grealish getting stupidly sent off the other night have pissed me right off at a time we can least afford to lose any quality players. Utterly brainless by the three of them

[Paddockoldie]

I can understand penalties can be tricky, but I can't understand how a striker can miss. A defender, midfielders etc, but strikers should know how to 'strike' a ball...

[Stumpy]

Learning how to kick the ball from the penalty spot would be a start. If I was Beto or Barry I’d be ashamed of myself. That and Grealish getting stupidly sent off the other night have pissed me right off at a time we can least afford to lose any quality players. Utterly brainless by the three of them

It's no shock to see Beto anad Barry miss from the spot.
They're sub standard players and they delivered sub standard penalties.
That's why garner took the last min pen, because neither of them could be trusted.
I knew the second the final whistle went we were out, there's too many of that starting line up you can't rely on in moments like that

[Toddacelli]

Everyone keeps saying ''he should be playing young players and developing them more'' but we're not in a comfortable enough position to do that.

Nothing wrong with the logic of this statement, but you also have to question why he persisted with McNeil on the right and/or left for as long as he did without bringing someone in for the last 10 or 15 mins? Why he persisted with O’Brien at right back without giving Patterson the last 20 mins to see how it impacted the game.

So you’re right to say we’re not in a good position for developing youngsters right now, but there have imo been opportunities, albeit small ones.

[Risky]

Nothing wrong with the logic of this statement, but you also have to question why he persisted with McNeil on the right and/or left for as long as he did without bringing someone in for the last 10 or 15 mins? Why he persisted with O’Brien at right back without giving Patterson the last 20 mins to see how it impacted the game.

So you’re right to say we’re not in a good position for developing youngsters right now, but there have imo been opportunities, albeit small ones.

I think this is the reality of where we are with Moyes really. Overall being objective, he's been a big part in getting us in to a good position, one which is a great place to be in comparison to where we've been over recent seasons. It's sometimes easy to forget that though because of some of the frustrating decisions and apparent stubbornness, that we're all too familiar with over the years with Moyes.

My own personal biggest frustration with him this season has been that when he came back a year ago I really thought he'd become a bit more relaxed and dare I say it progressive, but right now we're seeing the same old Moyes that used to really frustrate us back in the day. I think there's some genuine things to be frustrated by as well, however you can't really argue that overall we're in a far better place than we've been for years and that he's played a massive part in getting us there.

It may not be exciting, and he'll continue to make decision that drive us insane, but taking everything in to account we've really not got a lot to complain about.

[Toddacelli]

I think this is the reality of where we are with Moyes really. Overall being objective, he's been a big part in getting us in to a good position, one which is a great place to be in comparison to where we've been over recent seasons. It's sometimes easy to forget that though because of some of the frustrating decisions and apparent stubbornness, that we're all too familiar with over the years with Moyes.

My own personal biggest frustration with him this season has been that when he came back a year ago I really thought he'd become a bit more relaxed and dare I say it progressive, but right now we're seeing the same old Moyes that used to really frustrate us back in the day. I think there's some genuine things to be frustrated by as well, however you can't really argue that overall we're in a far better place than we've been for years and that he's played a massive part in getting us there.

It may not be exciting, and he'll continue to make decision that drive us insane, but taking everything in to account we've really not got a lot to complain about.

I agree. For that reason when he came back and was doing well, I commented something along the lines of “We’ve got the best version of Moues” or something. But it seems the old flaws are still apparent.

[Trowel]

Whenever I start getting fussy about Moyes, I take a look at West Ham.

We shouldn't forget that that the entire technical, support, scouting, board, ownership, etc. etc. structure around him is relatively new to the club, and needs to be allowed time, transfer windows, and budget, and space to do proper succession planning.

[777Kidnappings]

Something has to give if the transfer committee and moyes arent aligned on signings. Theres no point us spending 80m on players moyes doesn't want to play again

[Cods]

Today again you could see his limitations. There was no surprise that the AFCON was coming and that the Christmas schedule is busy and taking its toll...
But Did he try to ease in the younger ones to prepare for the this situation? Or even let them have 10-15 mins here and there? Nope. He runs his preferred XI to the ground and then expect the young ones to come in all at once and accomplish what exactly?
It's one thing to play as a youngster with the rest of first team XI and a whole other matter to play when there is basically a complete second string.
That's not how to develop youngsters....

In one sense Im happy he got us to 29 points and well on the way to safety so quickly. It eased a huge weight for us, imagine if we were in another year of relegation trouble.

Get the runs on the board as quickly as possible, then you can relax a bit and rest/test the squad.

[toffee_scot]

We’ve had a lot of players unavailable either through injury, suspension or AFCON recently so hopefully with a few key players back we should see results improve