Man City found guilty of 114 charges

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I mean, it’s an attempt to put numbers to things

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 5nljx7972o

Seems to just be random numbers selected though

“Liverpool missed out on £37.8m for one Europa League appearance”

“The combined impact on Everton missing out on the Europa League four times is £23.2m”
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Cereal Killer wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 9:20 am I mean, it’s an attempt to put numbers to things

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 5nljx7972o

Seems to just be random numbers selected though

“Liverpool missed out on £37.8m for one Europa League appearance”

“The combined impact on Everton missing out on the Europa League four times is £23.2m”
I'd like to see their workings.
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Cods wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 9:48 am I'd like to see their workings.
I imagine they’ve assumed a shit Liverpool side who couldn’t actually qualify for Europe would’ve won it

Whereas they’ll assume we get knocked out in the first round every single time
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Cereal Killer wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 9:54 am I imagine they’ve assumed a shit Liverpool side who couldn’t actually qualify for Europe would’ve won it

Whereas they’ll assume we get knocked out in the first round every single time
I don't know why assumptions at all should be considered - anything could have happened.
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Everton were denied Europe five times

Well if we have to pay Burnley then this is what we should claim from City.

Everton missed out on the Champions League once, in 2013-14, and on four other occasions they finished one place below the final Europa League spot.
The Champions League place is calculated to be worth £32.6m - the £39m earned by Manchester City minus the Toffees' £6.4m winnings from the Europa League they competed in instead.
The combined impact on missing out on the Europa League four times is £23.2m.
Add on the £10.6m from Premier League prize money, and the total financial effect is £66.4m - making Everton the third-most impacted club.
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Escalator wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 10:31 am Everton were denied Europe five times

Well if we have to pay Burnley then this is what we should claim from City.

Everton missed out on the Champions League once, in 2013-14, and on four other occasions they finished one place below the final Europa League spot.
The Champions League place is calculated to be worth £32.6m - the £39m earned by Manchester City minus the Toffees' £6.4m winnings from the Europa League they competed in instead.
The combined impact on missing out on the Europa League four times is £23.2m.
Add on the £10.6m from Premier League prize money, and the total financial effect is £66.4m - making Everton the third-most impacted club.
The Europa League figure is a joke, we should be claiming way more than that
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Nice to see a few articles and more voices questioning why they had to cheat, in the last few days - and looking to challenge the status quo a bit.

I still hold more contempt for the red cartel and Chelsea, than I do City.
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Shogun wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:19 pm I loathe to post a TalkSport clip but the Evertonian at 6 minutes:

100% right. They are outraged that city have cheated their way to the same insurmountable advantage they have. They cry fairness when they just dont want to share the unfairness with anyone else
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777Kidnappings wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 7:04 pm 100% right. They are outraged that city have cheated their way to the same insurmountable advantage they have. They cry fairness when they just dont want to share the unfairness with anyone else
This is true, and I also saw something on Bluemoon where an independent report showed most premier league clubs teetering on the brink of unsustainability or out right financial armageddon, whereas their owners have pumped crazy amounts in to a club.

However I still have no sympathy because other teams that haven't been financially doping have been massively penalised for playing by the rules and having to sell all their best players to comply.
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AjaxAndy wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 7:24 pm This is true, and I also saw something on Bluemoon where an independent report showed most premier league clubs teetering on the brink of unsustainability or out right financial armageddon, whereas their owners have pumped crazy amounts in to a club.

However I still have no sympathy because other teams that haven't been financially doping have been massively penalised for playing by the rules and having to sell all their best players to comply.

I dont have any sympathy for them or any of the elite they cheated out of titles by spending similar amounts better. These fuckers have eaten football and now they are crying unfairness
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777Kidnappings wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2026 7:47 pm I dont have any sympathy for them or any of the elite they cheated out of titles by spending similar amounts better. These fuckers have eaten football and now they are crying unfairness
It's all relative too though.

I bet the likes of Reading and Charlton et al are as annoyed with Burnley, Southampton, West Ham and Wolves, with all their parachute payments and sweet Prem money, if not the impact of relegation itself.

The fact that the Premier League have made bad and favourable policy for the elite, and then policy on the run, whilst trying to enforce the rules as they go - it's an absolute mess. The structure of the game with massively incomparable finances will not lead to a sustainable competition. It's simply a game of economics.
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Brutal

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blueToffee wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2026 4:22 pm
And then they’ll be back after one season in the Championship, huzzah, that’ll teach them
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I feel so jaded by this whole saga, and I'm struggling to get enthused about the sport at the moment.

It has to be a massive penalty for it to make any sort of sense, and that penalty can't simply be a 1 season thing.
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