Dyche - HE'S GONE

[Juanito]

How many squads do you think we are better than. Think other than the 3 prompted teams we are struggling to say we are significantly better than anyone else. Probably the slowest team in the league too. We will see soon enough but I'm not sure anything but defensive football suits our squad

The Ipswich game that has just finished shows that we have a better squad but they play better football, are well coached and don’t produce turgid shit.

[TheRam]

How many squads do you think we are better than. Think other than the 3 prompted teams we are struggling to say we are significantly better than anyone else. Probably the slowest team in the league too. We will see soon enough but I'm not sure anything but defensive football suits our squad

You’re completely blinded by the manager.

He’s making a decent collection of attacking players look at lot worse than they are but you can’t see it.

You’re pretending the squad is a lot worse than it is because you can’t admit dyches failings this season.

We were the 12th best team in the league last season. Teams like Brentford, palace and wolves have lost their best players without replacing them, we’ve added decent quality with the likes of ndyaie, Mangala and lindstrom, and the promoted teams are all rubbish.

We shouldn’t be where we are. It’s all down to the manager unfortunately.

Don’t let his gaslight you into thinking this is as good as it gets.

[Bob Sacamano]

I didn’t know I could get repetitive stress disorder from reading the same posts over and over.

[AjaxAndy]

I didn’t know I could get repetitive stress disorder from reading the same posts over and over.

You know it's been repeated too much when even I'm rolling my eyes at it coming up again

[777Kidnappings]

You’re completely blinded by the manager.

He’s making a decent collection of attacking players look at lot worse than they are but you can’t see it.

You’re pretending the squad is a lot worse than it is because you can’t admit dyches failings this season.

We were the 12th best team in the league last season. Teams like Brentford, palace and wolves have lost their best players without replacing them, we’ve added decent quality with the likes of ndyaie, Mangala and lindstrom, and the promoted teams are all rubbish.

We shouldn’t be where we are. It’s all down to the manager unfortunately.

Don’t let his gaslight you into thinking this is as good as it gets.

We are 6th bottom ahead of 5 of the teams you named. We are all ready for dyche to go but I don't think we are going to get much better with this squad regardless.
Someone posted that lindstrom hasn't scored for about 60 games. Is that true? I personally think we've bought awfully again. Wrong players. Wrong positions. I think it's all crap. We will find out soon enough because I can't imagine dyche will be here in January

[TheRam]

We are 6th bottom ahead of 5 of the teams you named. We are all ready for dyche to go but I don't think we are going to get much better with this squad regardless.
Someone posted that lindstrom hasn't scored for about 60 games. Is that true? I personally think we've bought awfully again. Wrong players. Wrong positions. I think it's all crap. We will find out soon enough because I can't imagine dyche will be here in January

2 points off the bottom three with the easiest start out of the whole league.

We were the 12th best team in the league last season. What do you think has changed so much that we can’t expect better than what we’ve been served up this season?

[777Kidnappings]

We are arguing which of 4 players should play number 10 for us. It's a dead position and we've got 4 bloody number 10s. Think they all started on Saturday. I don't think anything at the club has gotten any better

I'm absolutely not pro dyche. I want him gone. I want 95% of the players gone too though and the dof.

[TheRam]

4 number tens?

What?

[777Kidnappings]

2 points off the bottom three with the easiest start out of the whole league.

We were the 12th best team in the league last season. What do you think has changed so much that we can’t expect better than what we’ve been served up this season?

I'm not saying you can't expect better just that it's not much of a surprise we are shite. Think we were fifth favorites for relegation and 1 of the 5 more likely were forest who've had an amazing start. We aren't in an unusually low position.

We made a profit on transfers again. We've had branthwaite out for almost all the season so far. But mainly we are just a bit crap.

We did surprisingly well to get 12th last season. 12th to relegation for a side with no money isn't an amazing shock. I don't think people are realistic in terms of probabilities. No chance we shouldn't beat Southampton... they were favorites. Brentford a must win..... less than 40% chance we win. Have to win after the red.... 55% chance we win. We've been shite. Our results have been shite. They aren't particularly unexpected though.

[AjaxAndy]

2 points off the bottom three with the easiest start out of the whole league.

We were the 12th best team in the league last season. What do you think has changed so much that we can’t expect better than what we’ve been served up this season?

We scored 19 set piece goals last season which won us a hell of a lot of points... Unless I'm mistaken we haven't scored a single one this season so far?

I think we were more aggressive last season with how we played, but as soon as Doucoure was out we couldn't win a match to save our lives... This season that Doucoure we've always struggled to win without isn't the same player, not even close... I think this and the set piece lack of goals is a big part of our decline.

I don't think we played much better football last season, it was just more effective, that Southampton loss we'd have won last season but it's just not working any more.

A change is 100% needed, I think a progressive manager with fresh ideas would just lift everything... Even that game yesterday we could have switched to a diamond at half time, put McNeil at left back and move Lindstrom behind the front 2, brought Patterson on at right back. Dyche will never do that kind of thing and it's why it's time for him to go. His ideas that worked for the last 18 months no longer do and there's no point flogging a dead horse hoping they will.

[777Kidnappings]

4 number tens?

What?

We've got doucoure playing there. Then there's arguments as to if lindstrom, Ndiaye or Mcneil should play there instead. I've no clue where any of them should play but doucoure is awful at almost everything and the other 3 are so slow as wingers. Seems like there's a debate on each of their individual threads as to if they should play as a 10. Well apart from doucoures who I assume everyone has given up on

[Bluedylan1]

Doucoure's not really a number 10. He's traditionally been someone who breaks from a central midfield 3 and contributes goals. McNeil isn't a no. 10 despite Dyche crowbarring him in there.

Lindstrom has played his best football at Eintracht as a dual 10 behind the striker. Ndiaye has played as a 10 or a second striker at Sheff U, when he produced his best form.

So really we've got 2 guys who are fairly natural as 10s. The other two are Dyche aberrations.

[777Kidnappings]

Doucoure's not really a number 10. He's traditionally been someone who breaks from a central midfield 3 and contributes goals. McNeil isn't a no. 10 despite Dyche crowbarring him in there.

Lindstrom has played his best football at Eintracht as a dual 10 behind the striker. Ndiaye has played as a 10 or a second striker at Sheff U, when he produced his best form.

So really we've got 2 guys who are fairly natural as 10s. The other two are Dyche aberrations.

I don't disagree but that does lead on to why would we sign 2 number 2s and renew a third player that the manager wants to play at 10 all at the same time. Why wouldn't we sign a proper winger and a right back instead. I think the club is the same shambles it's been for the entire time moshiri has been here. The whole lot needs ripping out and starting again.

[Gary1878]

He really does have to go. You have to do it now whilst there is a smaller amount of pressure, not when there are 12 games to go.

I am actually really concerned that there are no decision makers in charge who can/are willing to make the decision. And i hope that doesn't cost us.

We desperately need a change of direction for the players. I actually think they are a decent group, with 2/3 really excellent players in Pickford, Branthwaite and Ndiaye. But whatever they are doing in training isn't right. They just aren't being taught anything other than shape, so when it comes to getting a good amount of possession, they have no clue how to use the ball effectively.

[Bluedylan1]

I don't disagree but that does lead on to why would we sign 2 number 2s and renew a third player that the manager wants to play at 10 all at the same time. Why wouldn't we sign a proper winger and a right back instead. I think the club is the same shambles it's been for the entire time moshiri has been here. The whole lot needs ripping out and starting again.

I think Thelwell was just trying to sign versatile players with the pittance he had available to give the manager options. He's wanted Ndiaye for a while, and I think most of us would agree we're happy with that one.

I just think Dyche is a very basic, limited manager who doesn't really do flexibility or nuance. I think we'll see the next manager get more from Ndiaye and Lindstrom to evidence that.