Abdoulaye Doucoure

[777Kidnappings]

What's the Liverpool stuff?

Look at VD and salah they got payrises because they did well. I know I'm not on their level but everton aren't on Liverpools level

Again not offensive just a bit delusional and not taking into account our circumstances at all

[Bluedylan1]

Tone deaf as well as not being able to control a football. 3 goals and 1 assist in 30 games, as the most advanced midfielder and you think you should be getting more.

Off you pop, big man.

[Cozzie]

Dick head.

Better for both parties anyway this.

It was always the best outcome that he left, shame it's this way but that's what it is.

[Granite]

Yeah, happy to move on from him but Moyes will know if we completely clear house, we could stutter early next season and the Freidkin’s aren’t known for their patience.

It is tone deaf and I get all that but we it’s not 2010. Tyrone Mings gets £100k a week. Leon Bailey on £120k and doesn’t play.

Fans were upset that apparently Delap wants £150k p/w. That’s about right in this league.

We’re not going to build a squad with £20m signings on £50k p/w, there’s just too much competition for even average players.

We can “do a Brighton/Bournemouth”, but it took those clubs years to lay those foundations.

[Gash]

Any of yous fancy taking a paycut in your next role despite being vital?

It's fine, don't be so precious.

But also don't mention Liverpool full stop.

It's a bit daft to try and compare football career to ordinary careers. Most people can still learn and develop throughout their career so of course they wouldn't want a paycut because in most cases they're ability and performance won't drop off. A 32 year old footballer with limited ability on the ball isn't going to get better and the physicality that he relies on will start to drop off soon. If he does want more money I'm glad we've let him go after years of Moshiri wasting money on players not worth their salary.

[777Kidnappings]

Yeah, happy to move on from him but Moyes will know if we completely clear house, we could stutter early next season and the Freidkin’s aren’t known for their patience.

It is tone deaf and I get all that but we it’s not 2010. Tyrone Mings gets £100k a week. Leon Bailey on £120k and doesn’t play.

Fans were upset that apparently Delap wants £150k p/w. That’s about right in this league.

We’re not going to build a squad with £20m signings on £50k p/w, there’s just too much competition for even average players.

We can “do a Brighton/Bournemouth”, but it took those clubs years to lay those foundations.

We aren't going to build a squad by paying over the hill players more than the inflated wages we paid them to drag us to the brink of bankruptcy


He's entitled to want whatever he wants. For me he's putting a ridiculous value on himself. Even mentioning the 2 Liverpool players is madness because while he says he's not on their level he's not even worth a mention besides them. Also him wanting to stay here doesn't really count for much when he reveals he wants Saudi wages

I don't think people have any issue with someone earning 130k or 150k a week. The reality with doucoure is that people aren't that bothered about him still being here on half that

Same conversation about if we should pay gueye 130k for a year or 2 and it would be different

Ultimately though I think he's being a little dishonest. He doesn't really want to stay here (unless we pay through the nose) and the reason we haven't offered him anything is probably because it's been made clear he's not really open to what we'd think was a fair offer

[brap2]

It's a bit daft to try and compare football career to ordinary careers. Most people can still learn and develop throughout their career so of course they wouldn't want a paycut because in most cases they're ability and performance won't drop off. A 32 year old footballer with limited ability on the ball isn't going to get better and the physicality that he relies on will start to drop off soon. If he does want more money I'm glad we've let him go after years of Moshiri wasting money on players not worth their salary.

Me too frankly and have said from the start, why buy a peak age prem midfielder for this money?

But his position is - he currently plays every minute, our record without him is horrible, he has scored big goals and put in big displays when badly needed, and remember - he's fighting for his livelihood here. This is probably his last payday, and nothing is signed yet.

No footballer is going to go on a podcast and say yeah well 32 I'm ready to accept less. Whether it's here or elsewhere it would be kamikaze behaviour for him to accept publicly he has slowed down at all, let alone that he is 'of limited ability' or willing to take a pay cut...during the age in which footballer wages have and continue to sky rocket year on year?

Come on. Maybe privately he'd be grateful to do another year, but he's addressing what has been said about him pulically - he can stay if he takes a paycut, no elite athlete in their right mind agrees with that, and it would be spectacularly stupid to agree with it publicly before they get another deal here or anywhere else.

[Cereal Killer]

Me too frankly and have said from the start, why buy a peak age prem midfielder for this money?

But his position is - he currently plays every minute, our record without him is horrible, he has scored big goals and put in big displays when badly needed, and remember - he's fighting for his livelihood here. This is probably his last payday, and nothing is signed yet.

No footballer is going to go on a podcast and say yeah well 32 I'm ready to accept less. Whether it's here or elsewhere it would be kamikaze behaviour for him to accept publicly he has slowed down at all, let alone that he is 'of limited ability' or willing to take a pay cut...during the age in which footballer wages have and continue to sky rocket year on year?

Come on. Maybe privately he'd be grateful to do another year, but he's addressing what has been said about him pulically - he can stay if he takes a paycut, no elite athlete in their right mind agrees with that, and it would be spectacularly stupid to agree with it publicly before they get another deal here or anywhere else.

Why not just say “we’re in discussions with the club, I’d love to stay if the terms were agreeable for both sides”

Job done, question answered

[brap2]

Why not just say “we’re in discussions with the club, I’d love to stay if the terms were agreeable for both sides”

Job done, question answered

Because he's got a personality, is it wise no, as seen by the reaction I suppose, but he's an elite athlete with the ego that usually goes along with that.

[Gash]

Me too frankly and have said from the start, why buy a peak age prem midfielder for this money?

But his position is - he currently plays every minute, our record without him is horrible, he has scored big goals and put in big displays when badly needed, and remember - he's fighting for his livelihood here. This is probably his last payday, and nothing is signed yet.

No footballer is going to go on a podcast and say yeah well 32 I'm ready to accept less. Whether it's here or elsewhere it would be kamikaze behaviour for him to accept publicly he has slowed down at all, let alone that he is 'of limited ability' or willing to take a pay cut...during the age in which footballer wages have and continue to sky rocket year on year?

Come on. Maybe privately he'd be grateful to do another year, but he's addressing what has been said about him pulically - he can stay if he takes a paycut, no elite athlete in their right mind agrees with that, and it would be spectacularly stupid to agree with it publicly before they get another deal here or anywhere else.

He's not going to keep doing that though, he'll drop off at some point and next season could be when it happens. It's not like it's that uncommon for players to get lower wages as they get older. I wouldn't use the term "fighting for his livelihood" either, lad's a multi millionaire, it's not like he'll be worrying about December's mortgage payments.

I don't think it's so much what he's said, more that he's come out in a podcast and said it rather then keep it to himself and be a bit more respectful to the club and fans, same with all that nonsense when he scored recently and pretended to be signing then shrugging. He's coming across as the 'big I am' like he's a world class player, he's been part of a squad that's found itself fighting relegation most of the time he's been here and despite his goals he's also contributed to several important ones we've conceded too. He's not a top player, he's a lower level PL player making out he's as important to us as Salah and VVD are to Liverpool, he's bit too full of his own importance.

No better time than next season to start playing in a way that means we don't have to accommodate him.

[TheRam]

Just don’t go on a podcast and put the club on blast.

He’s entitled to want more or the same as he’s on, we’re entitled to say nah.

You shouldn’t be going on fozcast and airing it all out though.

[brap2]

He's not going to keep doing that though, he'll drop off at some point and next season could be when it happens. It's not like it's that uncommon for players to get lower wages as they get older. I wouldn't use the term "fighting for his livelihood" either, lad's a multi millionaire, it's not like he'll be worrying about December's mortgage payments.

I don't think it's so much what he's said, more that he's come out in a podcast and said it rather then keep it to himself and be a bit more respectful to the club and fans, same with all that nonsense when scored recently and pretended to be signing then shrugging. He's coming across as the 'big I am' like he's a world class player, he's been part of a squad that's found itself fighting relegation most of the time he's been here and despite his goals he's also contributed to several important ones we've conceded too. He's not a top player, he's a lower level PL player making out he's as important to us as Salah and VVD are to Liverpool, he's bit too full of his own importance.

No better time than next season to start playing in a way that means we don't have to accommodate him.

He has to! Can't go quietly into that good night, season ends in two weeks and he hasn't got a contract.

He's swinging, is what it is.

[AjaxAndy]

Not arsed tbh... Why would he accept reduced wages here when he can probably double his current salary moving to Saudi?

I'd imagine if we gave him the same terms as he's on now he'd stay, but very few people would accept a reduction in wages if there's another job elsewhere offering to pay us double our existing salary.

Obviously we won't and shouldn't pay that so it's off to Saudi for him, which helps us reduce the wage bill and not rely on him anymore at the detriment to actually playing decent football.

Appreciate what he's done whilst here so not bothered about him saying about what the fans have commented, he's right that he shouldn't accept a reduction in wages when there's people out there willing to give him a pay rise.

[Gash]

He has to! Can't go quietly into that good night, season ends in two weeks and he hasn't got a contract.

He's swinging, is what it is.

I'm going to ban you if you keep saying "is what it is"!

One of those fucking annoying buzz phrases that seems to have crept in to everything.

Anyway, Doucoure........

[777Kidnappings]

Not arsed tbh... Why would he accept reduced wages here when he can probably double his current salary moving to Saudi?

I'd imagine if we gave him the same terms as he's on now he'd stay, but very few people would accept a reduction in wages if there's another job elsewhere offering to pay us double our existing salary.

Obviously we won't and shouldn't pay that so it's off to Saudi for him, which helps us reduce the wage bill and not rely on him anymore at the detriment to actually playing decent football.

Appreciate what he's done whilst here so not bothered about him saying about what the fans have commented, he's right that he shouldn't accept a reduction in wages when there's people out there willing to give him a pay rise.

In itself thinking you should get Saudi wages in England is ridiculous. He's not comparing apples to apples. He's entitled to go to Saudi for the money. It's just incredibly odd him moaning that everton won't pay him the Saudi rate. Of course we bloody won't