Dele

[Jamokachi]

He's a multi multi millionaire...

Just to point out, too, that this has absolutely no bearing on someone's situation, and it's a poor shout to make.

[74Blue]

He's a multi multi millionaire

Mental health does not discriminate, and nor should we.

We are not paying him to be there, simply allowing him to train somewhere he feels comfortable and is around a group of people that he is familiar with.

[Audrey Horne]

Not into it myself.

Nothing to do with us

He's a multi multi millionaire, he can train in Hawaii if he wants. We're not doing him a favour we're hoping vainly that he comes back. He's not. Staff employed by Everton football club shouldn't spend a minute on him.

I like you a lot mate but this is fucking horrid shout.

The money he's got has fuck all to do with anything tbh.

Maybe the fact he is so rich is a reason he feels isolated. People taking advantage of him being vulnerable.

You saying staff shouldn't spend a minute on him. You're making out that staff may be turning down paid work with the squad to focus on Dele?! It's rubbish.

Step back a minute.

He came out whilst under our care to speak about childhood abuse he suffered....

He obviously feels safe to do that whilst at this club. Showing him support and friendship is fucking brilliant.

It's astounding that you feel we should just discard him?

[AjaxAndy]

Yeah being a millionaire didn't stop him being photographed in a flat surrounded by nitrus oxide and addicted to sleeping pills.

He needs looking after not being told to piss off and sort himself out. We're doing that and it's 100% the right thing to do.

[Bob Sacamano]

Totally forgot about that crack den he was caught in. Very sad.

[777Kidnappings]

Absolutely nothing wrong with helping someone out. It will be costing us something though and there has to be a limit on it.

There's plenty more deserving people. People who've contributed more to the club (he really couldn't have contributed much less for 10m) and people who can't afford to pay for such facilities themselves

It absolutely is charity. We aren't doing it in hope he plays. Even we know at this point. I just think there needs to be a cut off point. He got the summer to prove his fitness and it's now October

Also I think we are being misled. He's had 18 month worth of injuries but throughout the whole period no one has had any idea if he was out for weeks months or years

At some point he's going to have to leave.

[TheRam]

Don’t think Brap is in any way saying because he’s a millionaire he doesn’t have issues.

More saying he can go and train anywhere in the world why are the club still putting time into him?

[Silas]

Not sure I'm arsed, his mental health is important to him he's doing no harm being around from what I'm aware, it's nothing to be concerned about either way

[brap2]

By him being a millionaire, I'm not saying he doesn't have issues because money magically makes them go away, I'm saying it's not like he needs a place to train, he can afford the worlds best personal training programme. We're not giving him anything he can't give himself. We are doing it because we think there might be a free player in it for us, and theres not.

And yea if staff are spending a minute on him it is a cost, staff time.is a resource? But ok fine let's not be forensic about that it does feel a bit gross.

Not into it, but I do doubt how much we're actually doing tbh. Not sure he steps foot in finch farm personally.

[AjaxAndy]

By him being a millionaire, I'm not saying he doesn't have issues because money magically makes them go away, I'm saying it's not like he needs a place to train, he can afford the worlds best personal training programme. We're not giving him anything he can't give himself. We are doing it because we think there might be a free player in it for us, and theres not.

And yea if staff are spending a minute on him it is a cost, staff time.is a resource? But ok fine let's not be forensic about that it does feel a bit gross.

Not into it, but I do doubt how much we're actually doing tbh. Not sure he steps foot in finch farm personally.

Just because he can afford it doesn't mean he'd source it and stick to it though. More likely he falls off the wagon and goes in to self destruction again. Or worse tries to play for someone else whilst doing this and it all gets even worse.

He needs help, not everyone who needs it goes and gets it, many many instead numb the pain using alcohol and drugs and then kill themselves.

I'm delighted to read he's had another injury set back instead of he's been found dead.

Can't fuck about with mental health and I don't really care if other people deserve help more or not. He's been at our club, he's been under our duty for care, we've decided to extend that probably because we suspect if we cut him lose he's in danger of becoming another overdose or other form of suicide statistic.

[Raptor]

I don't get the issue at all with him training for free. Let us invest a bit of time to see if we can get a very good player back up and running, if it doesn't work, no worries. I'd probably say I'm more fucked off about us doing similar things with players and actually paying then a wage, like Coleman, who basically does fuck all, injured all the time and takes a wage, at least we're learning with this deal.

[777Kidnappings]

I don't get the issue at all with him training for free. Let us invest a bit of time to see if we can get a very good player back up and running, if it doesn't work, no worries. I'd probably say I'm more fucked off about us doing similar things with players and actually paying then a wage, like Coleman, who basically does fuck all, injured all the time and takes a wage, at least we're learning with this deal.

He hasn't been fit for 18 months and hasn't been good for about 4 years. He's completely done. It's an act of kindness rather than hope we are going to get a player out of it

[Raptor]

He hasn't been fit for 18 months and hasn't been good for about 4 years. He's completely done. It's an act of kindness rather than hope we are going to get a player out of it

Who, Dele who we aren't paying, or Coleman who we are?

[777Kidnappings]

Who, Dele who we aren't paying, or Coleman who we are?

Dele. He won't play as many minutes as Coleman already has this season

[Toddacelli]

By him being a millionaire, I'm not saying he doesn't have issues because money magically makes them go away, I'm saying it's not like he needs a place to train, he can afford the worlds best personal training programme. We're not giving him anything he can't give himself. We are doing it because we think there might be a free player in it for us, and theres not.

And yea if staff are spending a minute on him it is a cost, staff time.is a resource? But ok fine let's not be forensic about that it does feel a bit gross.

Not into it, but I do doubt how much we're actually doing tbh. Not sure he steps foot in finch farm personally.

Could get Tony Robbins in Honolulu as his personal trainer on the wages he’s earned from footy, but it’s not about that. There’s no Premier League football club there. The environment is important. He’s been in footy clubs since he was a kid. The camaraderie, the routine, the structure, the laugh with the lads, being surrounded by peers who get it because they have lived it too. He can’t get that anywhere else other than a top flight English football club in my opinion.