New Everton Stadium at Bramley Moore Dock
- Audrey Horne
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It looks absolutely magnificent. Still can't believe it's finally happened after all the fiascos of the past 25 years, King's Dock, Tesco Stadium in Kirkby, Walton Hall Park, etc. Finally we have our new stadium and it's a delight to behold. Can't wait to watch my first game there.
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- Bob Sacamano
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Granted I’ve not been in it yet but I’m in absolute disbelief that a club that can’t get anything right seems to have done such an unbelievable job in building a stadium.
They couldn’t buy a right-back if their lives depended on it but they can do this. Go figure.
They couldn’t buy a right-back if their lives depended on it but they can do this. Go figure.
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Everton eye docklands regeneration
From one proposed American takeover of a Merseyside club to another. Don’t panic, Evertonians, I bring good news.
After two years of kissing frogs, Everton owner Farhad Moshiri found his prince this summer in the shape of The Friedkin Group (TFG), the Texas-based family firm that owns Toyota dealerships, hotels, swathes of Tanzania, film production companies and football clubs.
But you know all that.
The good news is that the regulatory approval process is progressing smoothly, with the only real hurdle still to clear being a deal to settle a £200million debt owed by one of Moshiri’s holding companies to one of those frogs, 777 Partners.
With 777 now on the verge of liquidation, that debt has been claimed by its main creditor, an American insurance firm called A-Cap. But because things can never be simple at Everton, A-Cap is being sued by a British investment company called Leadenhall, which has been granted an injunction that stops A-Cap selling assets/doing deals without Leadenhall’s approval.
So, that is what we are waiting for, and A-Cap, Everton, Moshiri and TFG remain confident it will come. Leadenhall is keeping its cards closer to its chest but nobody can think of a good reason why it would say no, so let’s keep it positive.
The newer news is that TFG has already started to look at what life will be like at Everton’s new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock next season.
To be frank, TFG would not be interested in buying the Premier League side if they were not moving into a new, 53,000-seat venue but Everton’s waterfront property will only transform the club’s fortunes if their owner can really maximise its benefits. And that means turning it into an asset that is used every day, not once a fortnight.
With that in mind, TFG is looking to increase the club’s footprint at the docklands site, most likely by buying the land around Nelson Dock, which is immediately to the south of Bramley-Moore Dock, to create more space for the type of entertainment and leisure offering any venue-operator must provide these days to make the sums add up.
There are also whispers — and that is all they are at present — that TFG might want to increase the stadium’s capacity at some point, which will not be easy given the tight constraints of the site and the design of the £750million building. There is, however, some scope to expand the stadium’s east side but only if there is genuine demand for it, as it would not be cheap.
A nice headache to have, perhaps, particularly after the existential crises of recent years.
Everton eye docklands regeneration
From one proposed American takeover of a Merseyside club to another. Don’t panic, Evertonians, I bring good news.
After two years of kissing frogs, Everton owner Farhad Moshiri found his prince this summer in the shape of The Friedkin Group (TFG), the Texas-based family firm that owns Toyota dealerships, hotels, swathes of Tanzania, film production companies and football clubs.
But you know all that.
The good news is that the regulatory approval process is progressing smoothly, with the only real hurdle still to clear being a deal to settle a £200million debt owed by one of Moshiri’s holding companies to one of those frogs, 777 Partners.
With 777 now on the verge of liquidation, that debt has been claimed by its main creditor, an American insurance firm called A-Cap. But because things can never be simple at Everton, A-Cap is being sued by a British investment company called Leadenhall, which has been granted an injunction that stops A-Cap selling assets/doing deals without Leadenhall’s approval.
So, that is what we are waiting for, and A-Cap, Everton, Moshiri and TFG remain confident it will come. Leadenhall is keeping its cards closer to its chest but nobody can think of a good reason why it would say no, so let’s keep it positive.
The newer news is that TFG has already started to look at what life will be like at Everton’s new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock next season.
To be frank, TFG would not be interested in buying the Premier League side if they were not moving into a new, 53,000-seat venue but Everton’s waterfront property will only transform the club’s fortunes if their owner can really maximise its benefits. And that means turning it into an asset that is used every day, not once a fortnight.
With that in mind, TFG is looking to increase the club’s footprint at the docklands site, most likely by buying the land around Nelson Dock, which is immediately to the south of Bramley-Moore Dock, to create more space for the type of entertainment and leisure offering any venue-operator must provide these days to make the sums add up.
There are also whispers — and that is all they are at present — that TFG might want to increase the stadium’s capacity at some point, which will not be easy given the tight constraints of the site and the design of the £750million building. There is, however, some scope to expand the stadium’s east side but only if there is genuine demand for it, as it would not be cheap.
A nice headache to have, perhaps, particularly after the existential crises of recent years.
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It was Peter Johnsons dream to build a stadium on the outskirts of the city where he* could be the beneficiary of every unit of alcohol and calorie of food sold in the surroundings.
*Possibly being a bit unkind there. "He" may well have been "we"
*Possibly being a bit unkind there. "He" may well have been "we"
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- Toddacelli
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That gap in the Blue lights bugs the shit out of me.
That aside, have we just built the best football stadium in the world? I can’t think of one I like better. Have I got my Blue-tinted glasses on or is that a shout?
That aside, have we just built the best football stadium in the world? I can’t think of one I like better. Have I got my Blue-tinted glasses on or is that a shout?
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I think there is a gap because these are just test runs.Toddacelli wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:07 am That gap in the Blue lights bugs the shit out of me.
That aside, have we just built the best football stadium in the world? I can’t think of one I like better. Have I got my Blue-tinted glasses on or is that a shout?
I don't think they are gonna be the final blue lights either.
Either way it's taking shape nicely.
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I thought at the time the capacity was about right but I think it's probably too low now. The capacity was probably agreed 6 or 7 years ago but Goodison sells out within about an hour of the tickets going on sale to members on the second day with the new tiered system they have now. When we did the Goodison tour the guy doing it said there's 30k on the ST waiting list and 50k members, obviously there will be a lot of people on the waiting list that won't take up the option but even if only 7-10k take it up, plus the existing ST holders that's probably up to mid 40k, then there's the away allocation there's not going to be a lot of tickets available and they'll probably end up the same as now, unless you're a member you've no chance.
We're like most PL clubs now, we're a tourist attraction to a lot of people who want to experience the "PL brand" and get to a game, I don't know all the figures but I'd guess most PL clubs run at high 90% capacity, even some of the smaller or less well known clubs that yoyo in and out of the league. I don't know how many people have said to me recently "will they fill it", we won't have any trouble filling the ground.
We're like most PL clubs now, we're a tourist attraction to a lot of people who want to experience the "PL brand" and get to a game, I don't know all the figures but I'd guess most PL clubs run at high 90% capacity, even some of the smaller or less well known clubs that yoyo in and out of the league. I don't know how many people have said to me recently "will they fill it", we won't have any trouble filling the ground.