Dyche - HE'S GONE

[Bluedylan1]

I just don’t have the energy for this tbh.

It’s the most difficult job in the country.

He’s done very, very well to keep us away from real trouble.

The football we play is of no concern to me. That type of discussion is years away.

I think as a fanbase we can probably try a bit better to get behind managers when we get into a slump like this, especially when you see what they have to deal with.

He hasn’t used the situation with the club, or the deduction as an excuse once, and his ‘just get on with it’ mentality is refreshing in a world where most managers thrive on a victim complex.

Deserves our time and patience more than any manager we’ve had since Moyes.

Yeah I do get that. There won't be much appetite for this conversation at the moment, especially with everything else going on. Guess I'm projecting into the near future a bit.

[Evertonian in NC]

Depends what you mean by "years" away. Two, I will accept.

We can't let Dyche spend money and go into BMD playing this horrible shite. Keep us alive this season and next, by any means necessary? I can live with it.

The problem comes if we have to sell both Onana and Branthwaite this summer. I am not sure I see what power structure really is in place to prevent Dyche from transforming the squad in his own image (and that would be awful).

[Gash]

Depends what you mean by "years" away. Two, I will accept.

We can't let Dyche spend money and go into BMD playing this horrible shite. Keep us alive this season and next, by any means necessary? I can live with it.

The problem comes if we have to sell both Onana and Branthwaite this summer. I am not sure I see what power structure really is in place to prevent Dyche from transforming the squad in his own image (and that would be awful).

I don't know why you keep saying that about Dyche spending money? Said it before, it won't be Dyche buying the players, it'll be Thelwell who throughout this whole mess has looked like one of the few people at the club who has his head screwed on properly. I'm sure he'll get input from Dyche but this isn't the days of Moyes making all the decisions or even Moshiri letting managers override the DOF and waste money on their own players.

[Cereal Killer]

Football is always changing.

I am starting to see a weird (possibly generational thing tied in with the "permanence of sky/the premier league/the "big 4/5/6") move towards a prescribed dogma.

But the flat 442 was revolutionary at one point. When we won the FA cup in 1933 we played a 235 formation.

You are right to say there are concepts of football that are now outdated. But the belief that the current style is something to aim for specifically is quite flawed for a number of reasons.

I’ll get aboard the 2-3-5 train

We might score some goals from open play

[Shogun]

Some big blind spots this fella.

[Audrey Horne]

[The Doc]

We cross from too deep and it's easy to defend. Hardly ever see us try and get closer to the byline.

[Gash]

We cross from too deep and it's easy to defend. Hardly ever see us try and get closer to the byline.

Doesn't help that Harrison never takes anyone on, just does that little shimmy on his tip toes then either loses the ball or passes backwards and on the left much as I like him Myko kills everything and puts his foot on the ball then knocks it sideways or backwards too.

[TheRam]

Set up was right, let down by two bad bits of defending.

Patterns of play in the final third just aren’t there. It’s always out wide and crossing it in.

At times McNeil picked the ball up in the middle and ended up out wide trying to win a corner it seemed.

Also needs to stop brining beto off for DCL on 60.

Last two weeks that’s killed any sort of attacking threat we had.

[Paddockoldie]

Poor coaching has to be part of the problem. The players look disillusioned and have no drive. Too easy to get rid to someone who will do the same. No confidence and very limited ability on the ball in terms of everything you'd expect from someone who does it for a living. Looking more and more like Roberto Dyche to me

[StirlingBlue]

I hope to fuck they don’t try to stick with Dyche when we get relegated

[TheRam]

Again, I don’t think we created any good chances today.

It was all scraps in the box and lads hitting shots from awkward angles.

[Evertonian in NC]

I don't know why you keep saying that about Dyche spending money? Said it before, it won't be Dyche buying the players, it'll be Thelwell who throughout this whole mess has looked like one of the few people at the club who has his head screwed on properly. I'm sure he'll get input from Dyche but this isn't the days of Moyes making all the decisions or even Moshiri letting managers override the DOF and waste money on their own players.

The manager at Everton (whoever it has been) has always, always had too much power (in personnel matters). I think it's a pretty big leap to suppose that Moshiri's distance from Everton matters will empower Thelwell. Thelwell needs more active support for a longer-term vision, from both ownership and the board. I don't see that happening with all the uncertainty surrounding Everton.

Then again, I am wrong most of the time. Caveat emptor.

[Gash]

The manager at Everton (whoever it has been) has always, always had too much power (in personnel matters). I think it's a pretty big leap to suppose that Moshiri's distance from Everton matters will empower Thelwell. Thelwell needs more active support for a longer-term vision, from both ownership and the board. I don't see that happening with all the uncertainty surrounding Everton.

Then again, I am wrong most of the time. Caveat emptor.

Nah, Thelwell wil be doing the recruitment plus Moshiri's no longer putting money in to massage his ego and buy shite. We'll do it the right way, the DOF in consultation with the manager will do the buying, if we do any buying that is.

[Evertonian in NC]

I mean, certainly hope you are right. Probably more likely than not you are, though Everton is quite good at Darkest Timeline darkening.