Euro 2024 Discussion
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I’m actually sad that Southgate isn’t going to be manager at Man Utd next season
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StirlingBlue
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The easy fix to the congestion issue is to drop Bellingham back into midfield either with Foden/Rice in a three or with Rice as a double pivot.777Kidnappings wrote:The England team just isn't a team. Not sure kane can play his game when that puts him on top of Bellingham I'm midfield. We need someone pacy to play on the shoulder.
Add in an actual LW like Gordon and Kane will flourish with wide threats stretching the line
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Why are we always having this discussion about the midfield.
Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, gerrard and we couldn’t make that work.
Rice, Bellingham, foden, Saka and we can’t make this work?
Stop playing people out of position and get a balanced midfield.
Either drop Bellingham back. If you’re not going to do that then you have to make a huge call with and drop Foden.
We’re starting games with three players out of position. You can’t do that at this level.
Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, gerrard and we couldn’t make that work.
Rice, Bellingham, foden, Saka and we can’t make this work?
Stop playing people out of position and get a balanced midfield.
Either drop Bellingham back. If you’re not going to do that then you have to make a huge call with and drop Foden.
We’re starting games with three players out of position. You can’t do that at this level.
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Bluedylan1
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It is mad he's been here for 6 years, and we've gone into a tournament trying some weird midfield experiment that the player's club haven't even tried, despite us having multiple strong options in that position, with 1 left back in the entire squad who's probably not going to be fit to play a game and playing the Premier League and La Liga best players this season both in positions that don't enable them to play well.
I bet he wishes he could switch the computer off and re-load save game to when he selected the squad and have another go.
I'm hoping that the massively negative reaction last night shocks him into changing the entire thing, and putting players in the right positions for the last group game and maybe there's still time to rectify things.
I bet he wishes he could switch the computer off and re-load save game to when he selected the squad and have another go.
I'm hoping that the massively negative reaction last night shocks him into changing the entire thing, and putting players in the right positions for the last group game and maybe there's still time to rectify things.
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I doubt we will see the personnel and formation change we saw in 1990 from Sir Bobby Robson - Southgate has his favourites and will still try to find a way to keep them in the side.
I am no fan of chess grandmaster (self-taught) Anthony Gordon but at least he can stretch the field and get behind the opposition defence. Cole Plamer was sensational last season but is being overlooked for a mediocre right-back who is playing out of position.
Might also be the time to keep Kane on the bench - he does not look fit and Watkins had more threat and movement in his time on the pitch.
As mentioned in the above posts pick players in their best position.
I am no fan of chess grandmaster (self-taught) Anthony Gordon but at least he can stretch the field and get behind the opposition defence. Cole Plamer was sensational last season but is being overlooked for a mediocre right-back who is playing out of position.
Might also be the time to keep Kane on the bench - he does not look fit and Watkins had more threat and movement in his time on the pitch.
As mentioned in the above posts pick players in their best position.
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Agree with the Kane shout, he looks like he had far too many currywursts while in Germany this year.
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I still think Kane needs to start, I'm not at all convinced Watkins is at the level required to score regularly at this level.
The tactics are all wrong though, and unless that's sorted there's little point sticking a plaster on it and hoping that'll do, and that's what Watkins would be. He can run in behind with pace, but we only need that because he's got Foden out wide and TAA in midfield.
Stick Gordon out wide, play a midfield 3 of Rice, Bellingham and Foden, and then Kane dropping in to space deep isn't an issue as you've only got Foden in that area and Gordon and Saka offer the pace and runs in behind.
You can also allow Kane to stay higher up because you have a midfield that's balanced and effective on the ball.
Kane has been shit so far, Rice looked like a league one player yesterday, Bellingham was terrible... It's no surprise that if you play an imbalance passive tactic with players out of position suddenly the best players in the team look completely lost.
The tactics are all wrong though, and unless that's sorted there's little point sticking a plaster on it and hoping that'll do, and that's what Watkins would be. He can run in behind with pace, but we only need that because he's got Foden out wide and TAA in midfield.
Stick Gordon out wide, play a midfield 3 of Rice, Bellingham and Foden, and then Kane dropping in to space deep isn't an issue as you've only got Foden in that area and Gordon and Saka offer the pace and runs in behind.
You can also allow Kane to stay higher up because you have a midfield that's balanced and effective on the ball.
Kane has been shit so far, Rice looked like a league one player yesterday, Bellingham was terrible... It's no surprise that if you play an imbalance passive tactic with players out of position suddenly the best players in the team look completely lost.
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Audrey Horne
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Pickford
Walker Stones Guehi Trippier
Rice
Bellingham
Saka Palmer Gordan
Kane
TBH i want Watkins instead of Kane, but i do think if there was more running and movement in the midfield, then Kane wouldnt drop back so much.
Walker Stones Guehi Trippier
Rice
Bellingham
Saka Palmer Gordan
Kane
TBH i want Watkins instead of Kane, but i do think if there was more running and movement in the midfield, then Kane wouldnt drop back so much.
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Cereal Killer
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Still fucked by no left back
Absolute mismanagement of the highest order
Deserves the sack with no payoff for gross incompetence
Absolute mismanagement of the highest order
Deserves the sack with no payoff for gross incompetence
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Let's be honest, it's all on Southgate.
You're playing a front 4 that consists of Kane who scored 44 goals for Bayern Munich last season, then there's Foden who was player of the season for the title winning side, Bellingham who was top 2 players at Real Madrid in winning the title & CL whilst Saka is the best player in an Arsenal team that almost won the title themselves.
If we were conceding goals regularly in this tournament then it would make sense when you look at the backline and Southgate would probably get a bit more lee-way but there's just no excuses for what we've seen in the attack for the opening couple of fixtures. Genuine world class talent that are all looking a bit meh. A team should be playing to its strengths but this one does the opposite.
The tactics are one thing but the attitude is all wrong. They've gone into the tournament so timidly and playing themselves down to take off the pressure but look at the players in attack. Without being all 'old man shouts at clouds' about it, Southgate should have been putting his massive balls on the table, bigging up the team and creating a fear factor about England for other teams to worry about. I think he's a bit of a fraud but if you gave somebody with the personality of Tuchel this team then England would almost certainly win Euro 2024 imo.
You're playing a front 4 that consists of Kane who scored 44 goals for Bayern Munich last season, then there's Foden who was player of the season for the title winning side, Bellingham who was top 2 players at Real Madrid in winning the title & CL whilst Saka is the best player in an Arsenal team that almost won the title themselves.
If we were conceding goals regularly in this tournament then it would make sense when you look at the backline and Southgate would probably get a bit more lee-way but there's just no excuses for what we've seen in the attack for the opening couple of fixtures. Genuine world class talent that are all looking a bit meh. A team should be playing to its strengths but this one does the opposite.
The tactics are one thing but the attitude is all wrong. They've gone into the tournament so timidly and playing themselves down to take off the pressure but look at the players in attack. Without being all 'old man shouts at clouds' about it, Southgate should have been putting his massive balls on the table, bigging up the team and creating a fear factor about England for other teams to worry about. I think he's a bit of a fraud but if you gave somebody with the personality of Tuchel this team then England would almost certainly win Euro 2024 imo.
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Audrey Horne
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It's an issue but it's been compounded by the tactics... He's essentially got Trippier playing as a left wing back but once he receives the ball high up the pitch he can't do anything with it due to being right footed.Cereal Killer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:53 am Still fucked by no left back
Absolute mismanagement of the highest order
Deserves the sack with no payoff for gross incompetence
If you stick Gordon out there then the need for Trippier to get so far forward is reduced as you've got width out there.
Instead we've got Foden drifting all over meaning Trippier is running up and down being our entire left side and understandably it's completely ineffective.
You can get away with Trippier at left back if you compensate for it, instead Southgate has decided that compounding the issue is the better solution, which is frankly mind boggling.