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Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:44 pm
by superpull
Cods wrote: ↑Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:59 pm
Is my understanding correct that clubs can just pay a fine to UEFA if they sit above the 70%?
If this is known and understood to be an acceptable practice, surely the premier league should just follow the 70% principle overall but make more allowances for the bottom end of the league.
Would make the league more interesting if it was actually viewed as a sporting competition rather than a free market oligopoly.
That's just for the "handover" period. So you get a few years to get your shit together and it's just a fine if you go over a little bit.
Punishment linked to how much you go over is the plan going forward.
@777Kidnappings , i actually think these rules may be significantly worse for us as things stand.
From the 23/24 accounts:
£186.9m turnover
£221.1m Squad Costs (made up of £156.6 staff and player costs plus £64.5m Amortisation. I dont think these figures include agent fees i think, which should also count towards it).
That's a £34.2m loss (although the two figures above don't directly translate. It's not a bad rule of thumb). All good in PSR land.
In the new system, that's a 118.3% overspend however.
Not only would we not have any room for transfer fees - but we are 3% over the absolute red limit that incurs points deductions. (80%-115% is a "green" limit).
Bramley Moore and the debt refinancing needs to be lifting that £186.9m figure dramatically
Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 2:02 pm
by superpull
However, me and AI think the stadium, improving in the league by 4 or 5 positions (and getting on TV an extra handful of times) increases turnover to the £270m range.
Combined with the work we have done to reduce the wages last summer then squad costs look like they may be as low as £180m.
Which gives us....
£36m to spend again

Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 5:42 pm
by Cereal Killer
superpull wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 2:02 pm
However, me and AI think the stadium, improving in the league by 4 or 5 positions (and getting on TV an extra handful of times) increases turnover to the £270m range.
Combined with the work we have done to reduce the wages last summer then squad costs look like they may be as low as £180m.
Which gives us....
£36m to spend again
Plus whatever amoritisation we’re paying off, if we’re paying £20m a year, we can keep that consistent, so that would make £56m?

Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 8:08 pm
by superpull
Cereal Killer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 5:42 pm
Plus whatever amoritisation we’re paying off, if we’re paying £20m a year, we can keep that consistent, so that would make £56m?
Yeah. Only problem with that is how little we spent for quite a few years.
But, I suppose - lower amortisation means less squad cost
New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 7:35 pm
by blueToffee
Sorry didn't want to bump such threads, but didn't know where else to put this.
The Premier League is proposing to allow clubs to negotiate settlements over alleged breaches of its financial rules rather than seeing their cases automatically referred to an independent commission.
Sounds like it'll be used by those with armies of lawyers to negotiate a slap on the wrist and not to be put through the same process we were.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - 2025 Nobody in Breach
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 7:46 pm
by Cozzie
So this will ultimately be how City get away with it then.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - 2025 Nobody in Breach
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 7:57 pm
by Cereal Killer
Cozzie wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 7:46 pm
So this will ultimately be how City get away with it then.
Yeah they’ll negotiate a nice cushy payment to the EPL
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Changing the rules
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 8:02 pm
by Shogun
blueToffee wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 7:35 pm
Sorry didn't want to bump such threads, but didn't know where else to put this.
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Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Changing the rules
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 8:25 pm
by blueToffee
Shogun wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 8:02 pmhmmmm.png
I mean...technically.
Honestly I thought I'd scare people more with a new FFP thread.
Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 9:04 pm
by Cods
blueToffee wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 7:35 pm
Sorry didn't want to bump such threads, but didn't know where else to put this.
The Premier League is proposing to allow clubs to negotiate settlements over alleged breaches of its financial rules rather than seeing their cases automatically referred to an independent commission.
Sounds like it'll be used by those with armies of lawyers to negotiate a slap on the wrist and not to be put through the same process we were.
That might be fine,.... for any club not already under investigation for breaches.
Send them down.
Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 9:12 pm
by blueToffee
Cods wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 9:04 pm
That might be fine,.... for any club not already under investigation for breaches.
Send them down.
You know that's not how things work for the bigger teams.
Stall, stall, stall, slap on the wrist.
Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 9:36 pm
by Cods
blueToffee wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 9:12 pm
You know that's not how things work for the bigger teams.
Stall, stall, stall, slap on the wrist.
Yep.
Wait for the off-season, or when focus has waned sufficiently, plant a few seeds before the announcement... play it down in the media...
Totally cool and normal.

Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 6:47 am
by AjaxAndy
blueToffee wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 7:35 pm
Sorry didn't want to bump such threads, but didn't know where else to put this.
The Premier League is proposing to allow clubs to negotiate settlements over alleged breaches of its financial rules rather than seeing their cases automatically referred to an independent commission.
Sounds like it'll be used by those with armies of lawyers to negotiate a slap on the wrist and not to be put through the same process we were.
I bet any money the settlements can be 'undisclosed' too. Nice little get out for the Premier League to punish the big teams far less severely.
Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 7:25 am
by Cereal Killer
If they don’t win the title it’ll be like a 20 point deduction, so it won’t cost them the league and it’ll be just enough so they’re still in the CL places, to make it look like they’ve done something
Re: New Financial Fair Play Rules
Posted: Sat May 16, 2026 9:36 am
by Cods
I'm just glad they're reinstating our 8 points once-removed, in this season, so we already qualify for Europe despite having two games in hand.
Just can't wait for that little asterix to reappear down below the league table again.