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Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:23 am
by Gary1878
Chopping and changing has rarely worked in football.

You only change things if the information you now have is fundamentally different to that to which you originally started with.

Pick either Beto or Barry, and he should be your number one unless something major happens in order for you to reconsider. I just haven’t seen anything in Beto to warrant him being number 1, but Moyes needs to make a decision either way. It’s time to make a firmer choice.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:24 am
by brap2
Give me Ndiaye in the ten and Grealish left, interchanging throughout.

Get Ndiaye closer to the box running at defenders and taking shots. Get Grealish doing what he does which is just top class and he would adapt to the centre no problem.

Dibling on the right, just play your way in son.

Barry up top no question.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:10 pm
by Cozzie
Categorically has to be Barry up top.

A goal could do his confidence wonders.

I also don't think he has been that bad.

Heavily involved in a few of the early seasons goals, admittedly was poor against West ham but offers a lot more than Beto does for me.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:15 pm
by dazfrancis
Is this the weekend Moyes stumbles upon his best 11?

Feels like it would always happen "by accident" i.e. enforced through injury or suspension during his first spell

Reckon Moyes isn't having Barry and Dibling both jumping into the starting 11.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:35 pm
by AjaxAndy
brap2 wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:24 am Give me Ndiaye in the ten and Grealish left, interchanging throughout.

Get Ndiaye closer to the box running at defenders and taking shots. Get Grealish doing what he does which is just top class and he would adapt to the centre no problem.

Dibling on the right, just play your way in son.

Barry up top no question.
Grealish will always be held back by having Mykolenko as LB and we'll never get the best out of him or the striker having him out there all the time.

I think against the top teams it's fine but any game we want to create chances and try be on the front foot it makes almost no sense to have Grealish out wide... interchanging with Ndaiye would be fine but let's face it Moyes isn't going to do that, he's far too rigid.

My initial excitement about an interchanging three behind the striker disappeared about 15 mins in to the first game when I realised there was absolutely zero chance of that actually happening unfortunately.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:58 pm
by brap2
Not saying barry will be really good at the weekend but we probably have to push through plenty of bad to get to good so let's start pushing

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:34 pm
by sam of the south
brap2 wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:58 pm Not saying barry will be really good at the weekend but we probably have to push through plenty of bad to get to good so let's start pushing
Doesn’t sound like the Everton way, unless that player happens to be 28+ and/or is a workmanlike pro with spades of pashun

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:38 pm
by sam of the south
AjaxAndy wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:58 pm Not really no, might run in a vague direction towards an opponent but it's certainly not pressing.
Sigurdsson built a solid career on this

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:07 pm
by blueforyou
1) Pickford
2) O'Brien
3) Mykolenko
4) Tarkowski
5) Keane
6) Gueye
7) Dibling
8) Garner
9) Ndiaye
10) Grealish
11) McNeil

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:19 pm
by The Doc
McNeil?

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:25 pm
by Cozzie
Smoking the good stuff he is.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 5:56 am
by 74Blue
N'Diaye has been brilliant for us coming in from the left, so play him there, where he has looked a real threat. Grealish is more than capable of playing in the number 10 role and creating chances for the striker. I think we have to bite the bullet and accept that Beto is not a starting option up top. We have to give Barry an opportunity to show what he can do over a little run of games. Beto is fine if we need a chaotic battering ram to try to chase a goal late on in a game, but he's absolutely not a starter for me right now. His hold up play is woeful. The ball just bounces six yards off his shin.

We spent big money on Dibling, so let's see what we've bought. He's never going to develop getting splinters in his arse on the bench. I do fear that Moyes is too conservative to risk him just yet though.

We have a ton of talent in N'Diaye, Grealish and Dibling. Let that talent off the leash, because last few weeks the tactics haven't been working. We're creating bits, but lack a killer instinct, a cutting edge. So let's try something a little different.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 6:18 am
by blueforyou
A trio of talent, indeed - tons of it and time to try 'em together, teamwork

(And add Armstrong)

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:10 pm
by Cozzie
Just go and get the win Everton.

Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:12 pm
by Bornblue88
AjaxAndy wrote: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:58 pm Not really no, might run in a vague direction towards an opponent but it's certainly not pressing.
Hard disagree in this one. He takes up excellent positions for keeping the CB’s honest and launching a press, it’s just that KDH and Grealish are weak in the press and both wingers don’t have a great amount of pace. A bit more energy from him would be good but it’s not like the pressing breaks down all the time because of him.