Do you take glory hunters seriously?

[Shogun]

And what do you considering a glory hunter to be? Like if you're from Ireland and you support Liverpool but go to 20 matches a season then are you to be taken seriously?

If I meet anyone who supports Liverpool/Man United/Arsenal and they're not from the place of those teams then I struggle to have a serious conversation about football with them. I just don't feel like they can ever truly understand football. Obviously there are exceptions to that but if you choose your team and it just happens to be one of the best and most easy to support then what do that say about you as a person?

It's different if you meet fans of like Everton, Leeds, Villa, etc who aren't from the areas of those clubs or don't have links with them because you wouldn't stick with those clubs for very long if you were wired like those who support the 'elite' teams.

[Bluedylan1]

Depends on the content of what they say.

Having lived away from Liverpool for a while now, you meet a shitload of supposedly hardcore reds who couldn't find Anfield on a map and it's not hard to quickly suss out the level of their fandom and how much of a cult member they are.

I find that a lot of them overcompensate because they feel insecure about not being homegrown fans, so they often act like more of an obnoxious dick than scouse reds do. They go a little too far in their jabs about Everton to prove how hardcore they are, when a scouse red doesn't feel the need to prove anything, so he/she might talk about Everton in a calmer, more grounded way.

Usually in response, I play on that insecurity and point out how much they are overcompensating and that feels pretty satisfying. They don't usually have a comeback that's remotely convincing.

[74Blue]

And what do you considering a glory hunter to be? Like if you're from Ireland and you support Liverpool but go to 20 matches a season then are you to be taken seriously?

If I meet anyone who supports Liverpool/Man United/Arsenal and they're not from the place of those teams then I struggle to have a serious conversation about football with them. I just don't feel like they can ever truly understand football. Obviously there are exceptions to that but if you choose your team and it just happens to be one of the best and most easy to support then what do that say about you as a person?

It's different if you meet fans of like Everton, Leeds, Villa, etc who aren't from the areas of those clubs or don't have links with them because you wouldn't stick with those clubs for very long if you were wired like those who support the 'elite' teams.

If they're managing to get to 20 games a season, then they're reasonably serious about their choice of club. It's the absolute fucking bellwhiffs that have never been to a game in their lives, but suddenly know everything there is to know about football the second that "their team" win a big game or win a trophy that I simply cannot take seriously.

There are fans who travel hundreds, even thousands of miles to see their idols in the flesh, and if that tickles their pickle, that's absolutely fine. Just don't start ramming "your" team's success down my throat when you've never been to a fucking game in your life. If you have a season ticket in The Albert, The Sandon, The Twelfth Man or The Arkles, you can fuck right off because you're a glory hunting fucking bellend! Get the fuck inside and follow your fucking team properly. I don't give a fuck how many badges you've got. I don't care that you've got full home, away and third kits, with the tracky and trainees to match. I don't give a fuck how.many times you've been to the museum or done the stadium tour. I'm not.arsed where you are on the mythical season ticket waiting list. If you can't be arsed to make an actual effort to be in the Stadium on match day, then you're a glory hunting bellend.

[MayorFarnham]

I take them more seriously than I used to. World is smaller, match tickets are harder to come by and following a club on TV/stream seems a legitimate way to support a club these days.
When I was growing up there were Liverpool fans everywhere who had never been to a game despite all ticket games being rare and not many sell outs.

[MayorFarnham]

As an aside I have seen a couple of incidents of glory hunting going wrong. I work with a chap who's a Blackburn fan from the Jack Walker era.
I used to play cricket with a lad who was a Middlesbrough fan from the early days of the Steve Gibson era.

[Gash]

I am/was a glory hunter so I guess I'll always cut them a bit of slack. Started supporting Everton in the 80's, drifted away a bit in the 90's then it's been a constant in my life since I went to my first game in 1997. I don't think there's such a thing as a 'normal' fan these days with the PL being a global brand, I found it quite annoying during the ballot last week that some fans who live in Liverpool were thinking they should get preference for tickets over people who live outside the Liverpool post code, that sense of entitlement is every bit as annoying as a part time fan who only pops up when things are going well.

I've said before we've fans even on here in the USA and Australia and lots of places in between who'll get up at all sorts of hours of the day and night to watch games, just because they're not spending money going to the game doesn't make them any less of a fan than someone with a season ticket, chances are I wouldn't be getting up at 3-4-5am to watch a game if I lived on the other side of the world so fair play to them. And we've all seen over the years that fans from far away can be very knowledgeable of Everton and football in general just as someone who goes to the game every week can be utterly clueless.

There's also fans from all over the world who will spend a lot of money coming to see Everton, I don't mean day trippers who want to see a PL game but fans who've followed the club for a long time, maybe emigrated or maybe born and bred abroad but have bought into the whole club and made a big effort both financially and emotionally to come and see Everton play, they're every bit a fan as someone who lives on Gwladys Street. I do sometimes fined overseas fans can maybe be a bit OTT or try too hard to be accepted, they don't need to but I can understand sometimes why they feel they need to but just because they don't have a scouse accent or don't live in Liverpool doesn't make them any lesser a fan than others.

[AjaxAndy]

As an aside I have seen a couple of incidents of glory hunting going wrong. I work with a chap who's a Blackburn fan from the Jack Walker era.
I used to play cricket with a lad who was a Middlesbrough fan from the early days of the Steve Gibson era.

I was chatting to an American at a wedding on Friday, he used to support Blackburn, then Fulham... Now supports Liverpool.

Said both Blackburn and Fulham got relegated so were hardly on Sky so he picked a team he knew wouldn't be relegated and be shown lots.

The only thing I took away from this was that maybe he's the kiss of death and Liverpool will now also be relegated.

He was also called Greg. An American called Greg, and he was about as likeable as Greg from Succession.

[Gash]

By contrast, I know a guy who's a Liverpool 'fan' who had a season ticket at Old Trafford and says the best atmosphere he'd ever been to was a CL match there against Barca, unsurprisingly his nickname is Tony Twelve Teams.

When Liverpool won the Covid title I suddenly realised how many Liverpool fans I had on social media who'd never mentioned their support before.

I've a good mate who's a Liverpool season ticket holder, goes to most games even though he lives 180 miles away and is pretty level headed and doesn't come across as part of the cult, although he does buy Titelist ProV1 golf balls and get YNWA printed on them, I guess they all have their faults somewhere.

[Audrey Horne]

Tony twelve teams hahhah amazing

[Escalator]

By contrast, I know a guy who's a Liverpool 'fan' who had a season ticket at Old Trafford and says the best atmosphere he'd ever been to was a CL match there against Barca, unsurprisingly his nickname is Tony Twelve Teams.

When Liverpool won the Covid title I suddenly realised how many Liverpool fans I had on social media who'd never mentioned their support before.

I've a good mate who's a Liverpool season ticket holder, goes to most games even though he lives 180 miles away and is pretty level headed and doesn't come across as part of the cult, although he does buy Titelist ProV1 golf balls and get YNWA printed on them, I guess they all have their faults somewhere.

Usually the highlight of my round is finding a nearly new unmarked prov1.

[4evablu]

You know they’re glory hunting twats when they say “I’ve even got Liverpool tattoo on me leg”

[biziclop]

Being from foreign lands I met a fair few and just like most sufficiently large groups, most of them were dead sound and some of them were bellends.

That said, as an overseas supporter of any team you do get the urge to overdo the banter, partly as an act of overcompensation but also because not living in the city itself you don't quite know how to pitch it.

[biziclop]

Also, and this is far from everyone, but I do find that diehard overseas supporters of less successful teams just tend to be more interesting people to chat with. I've got a good friend back home who is a big Boro fan and if someone opens with that, you bet I wanna hear the story of how that happened. (Spoiler: twenty years ago he worked there for a year or two.)

[StirlingBlue]

I don’t mind the ones who at least have a tangential link to their club.

My lad was born in London and one when we moved to Belgium but he’s an Everton fan because I forced my misery on him - if something mental happens in the next decade and we end up being good again then he’d for sure be accused of being a glory hunter.