The Rebuild

[fxceltic]

I think the disappointment of the window so far is driving us into a bit of a tailspin here. There's so much we don't know and we're making so many assumptions about what we've tried to do, or not do, and who's driving (or derailing) the process.

We've gone for some ambitious targets, that we were almost universally happy about until they didn't pan out, they now seem to be a sign that we didn't have a plan, or were wasting time on targets we aren't ready for.

We've gone for some more 'realistic' targets and have been asked to pay crazy amounts (and rightly tried to push back against that) OR they've chosen other, more attractive, options over us. Shit but it happens, especially when we're far from an attractive option (the stadium isn't the pull some thought it might be it seems).

What's worrying is that we seemed to have approached each of these one at a time, without any other 'warm' deals (I realise I'm guess here too). We seem to be missing out then starting the next conversation from scratch.

Your last point in particular is the one that drives me fucking wild with rage and frustration

I try to rationalise it as “we don’t know whether they’re doing it one by one but maybe it’s just coming out looking that way”, but I can’t convince myself, doesn’t seem realistic

It’s two fold as well:
1) when we are looking at one position it seems to be approach by approach and
2) on a more macro level also it seems to be position by position, so we couldn’t apparently be doing any of this til we knew gana and JB had signed new deals, etc etc

It’s just a fucking nonsense, and to my point about trying to rationalise it, part of me thinks I must be wrong because it’s so fucking mental it can’t be getting done that way in reality

Having said that, I’ve worked in recruitment for 25 years and I know for a fact that companies and hiring managers are fucking mental and almost always do stuff that does not work well for them, operating against their own best interests all the time

[AjaxAndy]

I think we are doing deals one by one because we don't know how much we have to spend on the next untill we've finalised the current one.

We probably expected to pay about £30m for a winger but because prices have massively increased we haven't been sure what we have left over to spend on an RB, DM or loan fees etc.

Could have probably spent £15m on a RB and then been £5m short of getting a right winger.

Just the nature of working to an incredibly tight budget and trying to stay inside PSR unfortunately.

[superpull]

I think we are doing deals one by one because we don't know how much we have to spend on the next untill we've finalised the current one.

We probably expected to pay about £30m for a winger but because prices have massively increased we haven't been sure what we have left over to spend on an RB, DM or loan fees etc.

Could have probably spent £15m on a RB and then been £5m short of getting a right winger.

Just the nature of working to an incredibly tight budget and trying to stay inside PSR unfortunately.

Not even close to a good enough reason to work on one deal at a time.
We're allowed to pull out of deals at late stages as well.

There was a story of Gareth Barry just hanging around the city in the hope we'd be signing him on the last day of the window.

[AjaxAndy]

Not even close to a good enough reason to work on one deal at a time.
We're allowed to pull out of deals at late stages as well.

There was a story of Gareth Barry just hanging around the city in the hope we'd be signing him on the last day of the window.

I think there'll still be discussions going on in the background whilst we sort out a deal... Issue is we've clearly identified RW as being the most important area to strengthen and it's taken soooo long because we couldn't agree a deal with Southampton and other players didn't want to come.

It'll be interesting to see if we now have a bit of a snowball effect with other deals being done in a much quicker time frame now the RW is (hopefully) finally sorted.

[fxceltic]

I think we can all agree that, for all the excuses, there’s no fucking excuse

[UnsyisaRhino]

Your last point in particular is the one that drives me fucking wild with rage and frustration

I try to rationalise it as “we don’t know whether they’re doing it one by one but maybe it’s just coming out looking that way”, but I can’t convince myself, doesn’t seem realistic

It’s two fold as well:
1) when we are looking at one position it seems to be approach by approach and
2) on a more macro level also it seems to be position by position, so we couldn’t apparently be doing any of this til we knew gana and JB had signed new deals, etc etc

It’s just a fucking nonsense, and to my point about trying to rationalise it, part of me thinks I must be wrong because it’s so fucking mental it can’t be getting done that way in reality

Having said that, I’ve worked in recruitment for 25 years and I know for a fact that companies and hiring managers are fucking mental and almost always do stuff that does not work well for them, operating against their own best interests all the time

That's it, you almost want to think that they cant be doing it that way, as that would be crazy, but it's hard to explain it away.

[Cozzie]

That Leicester player we are linked with Fatawu scored a peach today.

[Cantoffee]

That Leicester player we are linked with Fatawu scored a peach today.

Think he's going to have a big season. If they don't come up we should be going back for him.

Dibling may end up more central anyways at some stage.

[Goaljira]

Van Ewijk with another assist.

[Cozzie]

Van Ewijk with another assist.

Mentioned him in the today's footy thread.

He's quality.

[Brownie]

Everton have showed interest in signing Barcelona Right Back Héctor Fort on loan. West Ham have also been in talks with Barcelona

(Source - Spanish News site, SPORT )

[Cereal Killer]

Everton have showed interest in signing Barcelona Right Back Héctor Fort on loan. West Ham have also been in talks with Barcelona

(Source - Spanish News site, SPORT )

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[Grand Master C]

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But what do Robert W and Lee M think ??

[Cods]

Everton have showed interest in signing Barcelona Right Back Héctor Fort on loan. West Ham have also been in talks with Barcelona

(Source - Spanish News site, SPORT )

Right back, and played some at Left back last season.

[Cozzie]

Good mates with Aznou apparently too.