VAR and is there a way to fix it?

[Cods]

What are the refs being fed verbally by the VAR team.

Psychologically what does it do to their own determination.

If they're just asked to review it independently, without the extra layer of judgement/direction placed on top in the communication by the VAR team, does it change their approach?

Or is it a subconscious case of "Tell me what you want me to see"?

[blueToffee]

If it wouldn't lead to more haranguing by the players, I'd almost say if the refs were honest and actively just said I didn't really see that one so well I'm going to need a second look and just took themselves over to the pitchside monitor it would be a better solution and they'd still retain more of the authority or agency in that sort of situation.

I genuinely don't know what would be the most elegant solution right now.

- Keep it simple with the 3 or 4 officials on the day and accept things get missed.
- If you want to catch more, and you think refs are going to inevitably miss stuff as the game is faster maybe it'd actually be helpful not to put the one guy on a pedestal at this point? Have it be more of a team decision, a little more like some US sports, and anyone can call out whatever they're seeing be it from a monitor or on the pitch and it becomes more of a huddled decision. But just put a hard time limit on it of 30 seconds or such.

[Cereal Killer]

Fernandes didn’t get sent off because:

"To be violent conduct, it has to have excessive force or brutality. When you look at that, particularly in full speed, it doesn't have those elements. So therefore, this would be a yellow card offence."

Making this shit up as they go along

Gueye got a straight red for stroking Keane’s face

[Audrey Horne]

whatttttt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... g5rp56p55o


Referees' chief Howard Webb has admitted that the video assistant referee (VAR) did not even consider whether Enzo Fernandez was offside for Erling Haaland's controversial winner in Sunday's Manchester derby.

[AjaxAndy]

Fernandes didn’t get sent off because:

"To be violent conduct, it has to have excessive force or brutality. When you look at that, particularly in full speed, it doesn't have those elements. So therefore, this would be a yellow card offence."

Making this shit up as they go along

Gueye got a straight red for stroking Keane’s face

Tbf they changed the rule the summer after the Keane incident, so by the rules as they are now, it's correct.

[weimaranerblues]

The Audio is pathetic, also don't understand why the ref has no input during a VAR check , he's the senior bloke and I've never heard of these dumb fucks in the VAR studio , they are the officials in the game ,Lino gave it offside was it for Enzo or Haaland. And the sending off , so it's ok now to petulantly kick a player....Foden hardly brushed him ,

[NickNack]

whatttttt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... g5rp56p55o


Referees' chief Howard Webb has admitted that the video assistant referee (VAR) did not even consider whether Enzo Fernandez was offside for Erling Haaland's controversial winner in Sunday's Manchester derby.

"I was really disappointed with this outcome. We all are," said Webb, Premier League refereeing body Pro Ref's chief refereeing officer.
"None more so than the officials themselves. They take a lot of personal pride in what they do and they're obviously hurting now, having fallen short in this situation.
"They'll not be officiating again until after the international break."

So next time they do officiate, they’ll be scrutinising every minute detail when a goal is scored and disallow it for the most trivial subjective opinion - and knowing our luck it’ll probably be us

Just fuck VAR off altogether, we clearly don’t have enough people capable of operating it in this country

[Shogun]

Right then.

[Audrey Horne]

Wtf

[Cods]

Red.

He petulantly kicked out at a player.

Foden went for a tiny fraction of what Rice did.

Ref couldn't get his yellow out quick enough to shut down any conversation from VAR

[AjaxAndy]

Can't they retrospectively ban him for violent conduct?

[Cereal Killer]

Can't they retrospectively ban him for violent conduct?

VAR isn’t here to re-ref the game etc etc etc

[777Kidnappings]

Theres nothing wrong with the technology. The whole problem is weve got officials who make whatever decision they like regardless of the rules

[Stumpy]

Theres nothing wrong with the technology. The whole problem is weve got officials who make whatever decision they like regardless of the rules

That is it in nutshell.
It won't be long before a goal is scored just like barry's yesterday and it will be given.
This is what drives everyone round the bend.