Financial Fairplay Investigation - 2025 Nobody in Breach

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What is the lowest amount of points you would feel content with receiving back from the appeal?

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3
5%
1-3
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7%
4-6
31
53%
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25%
 
Total votes: 59

777Kidnappings
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Granite wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:10 pm Too late in the season for these accounts to lead to a 3rd points deduction this season. But… the next 3 year rolling PSR period would be: £120.9m in 2020-21, £44.7m in 2021/22 season and £89.1m for 2022/23. £254.7 losses (pre deductions). That will certainly lead to a points deduction, next season.

£89m is so bad it’ll fuck us for years. Honestly was expecting half of the £44m in the last accounts.
It's not even that 89m will fuck us for years. Its how the hell do we not post something similar next year and the year after and on and on. We lost 89m with an 86m wage bill. We'd have to stop paying everyone and still not break even.
Bluedylan1
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You get some people off the wage bill this summer like Gomes, Dele, Young etc.

You sell Onana and Branthwaite for somewhere in the region of £180m.

You see if there's the opportunity for any other sales, and then you have to target some free transfers, loans and low value transfers from smaller clubs/leagues around Europe, just like other clubs in financial trouble have to.

Not saying it's easy, but that's a rough blueprint.
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Gash wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:12 pm What's the cut off point once they introduce the new rules?
FY23-24 will be done by the August meeting so will be under current rules, but not sure how you'd stand changing the rules 2 months into the new year and right at the end of the transfer window so potentially the current rules covering next season too?
777Kidnappings
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Bluedylan1 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:18 pm You get some people off the wage bill this summer like Gomes, Dele, Young etc.

You sell Onana and Branthwaite for somewhere in the region of £180m.

You see if there's the opportunity for any other sales, and then you have to target some free transfers, loans and low value transfers from smaller clubs/leagues around Europe, just like other clubs in financial trouble have to.

Not saying it's easy, but that's a rough blueprint.

We are getting nowhere near 180m for them two. Be extremely lucky to get 120. Which with the smaller wage bill might see us break even for the following season. The season after that will be another minus 90m though. There's no way back to profitability barring administration or someone throwing about 700m at us
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The answer my friend.......is blowing in the wind......
blueforyou
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Losing interest, suspect Dyche and the players have, hard not to - would explain things, I guess

Difficult to remain professional when the person in charge is an amateur

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BlueMyMind
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Going to take us a decade to get out of this rut. With all of these loan payments and the interest accruing, we are going to not make enough from BMD when it opens to offset the aforementioned.

We are really in a terrible terrible spot.
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We’re going to go down at some point in next 3 years. If the points deductions don’t get us, the asset stripping of the squad will
Trowel
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Level headed review of the figures and the direction of travel.

Cereal Killer
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£89m losses despite spending £20m a month building a stadium?

Miraculously good news I’d say
TheRam
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We’ll hardly make a profit on Onana.

He has a sell on clause and we still owe Lille money for him don’t we?

So, yeah.

Branthwaite is the only player who could net us substantial money.
Paddockoldie
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Cozzie wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:45 pm The answer my friend.......is blowing in the wind......
😂😂😂😂😂
Cantoffee
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Yea if the PSR loss for the year adds another £30m to our breach I'd think we'll get hit with 4 points. Some mitigation for previous years already being punished. Maybe they'll push the punishment to next season.

Long-term we have one more tough year to get through after this one. After that, we can re-finance the debt at much lower rates secured by a fully built stadium and we'll see increased revenues. Likely a €30m a year swing.

Combine that with a lot of wages off the books vs 22/23 (Mina, Iwobi, Gray, Maupay, Davies, and then after this year Gomes, Dele, and then dropping Holgate, Keane, Godfrey for 25/26 season). We added players and will have to replace some of those but mostly at lower wages so overall wages down in 25/26 by £20m I'd think.

Could see a swing of £50m potentially by that season. Still need to sell to buy but so does everyone but the biggest clubs and it would be at a sustainable level.

No doubt though that we are in some trouble and need a takeover this summer. Convert some debt to equity, and stay in the fucking league this season and next.
UnsyisaRhino
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How the fuck are we selling every bit of talent and still losing 89 million?
Cereal Killer
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UnsyisaRhino wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:04 pm How the fuck are we selling every bit of talent and still losing 89 million?
We’re building a £500m stadium?
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