Relegation

[Shogun]

Seen a few people talk about the game in hand, but considering who the game in hand is against then I'm ignoring it entirely.

[Kerryblueboy]

We are so lucky that there are some woefully bad teams in the league this season Brentford and palace aren’t out of it yet either

[Cereal Killer]

We are so lucky that there are some woefully bad teams in the league this season Brentford and palace aren’t out of it yet either

Palace are fine, well out of our reach once we get docked some more points

[Cods]

'Here's a table selecting a period specifically where Everton haven't won, look how they sit on the bottom of that table.' How unenlightening and strange, @EFC_Statto.

Set up those parameters for any team in the league and they too would invariably be on the bottom, almost by definition.

Let's look at Sheffield United's first 10 games of this season, or Burnley's 10 since Xmas day?

Maybe we could do one for the first fortnight in December, pretty sure we'd top that 'league table'. For the first time in 22 years.

[Cereal Killer]

'Here's a table selecting a period specifically where Everton haven't won, look how they sit on the bottom of that table.' How unenlightening and strange, @EFC_Statto.

Set up those parameters for any team in the league and they too would invariably be on the bottom, almost by definition.

Let's look at Sheffield United's first 10 games of this season, or Burnley's 10 since Xmas day?

Maybe we could do one for the first fortnight in December, pretty sure we'd top that 'league table'. For the first time in 22 years.

You feeling ok?

[Cods]

You feeling ok?

Yes mate, why do you ask?

If it's in relation to my opinion on shit football analysis, that irks me a little, yeah.

[Kerryblueboy]

'Here's a table selecting a period specifically where Everton haven't won, look how they sit on the bottom of that table.' How unenlightening and strange, @EFC_Statto.

Set up those parameters for any team in the league and they too would invariably be on the bottom, almost by definition.

Let's look at Sheffield United's first 10 games of this season, or Burnley's 10 since Xmas day?

Maybe we could do one for the first fortnight in December, pretty sure we'd top that 'league table'. For the first time in 22 years.

Maybe it’s because we keep trying to play the same way even though it isn’t working because we have a stubborn coach who won’t change it

[Cods]

Maybe it’s because we keep trying to play the same way even though it isn’t working because we have a stubborn coach who won’t change it

I think you might be arguing something else entirely. I'm complaining about silly football statistics and analysis.

[777Kidnappings]

I think you might be arguing something else entirely. I'm complaining about silly football statistics and analysis.

Come on you know its dyches fault.

[NomadskiEFC]

Yes mate, why do you ask?

If it's in relation to my opinion on shit football analysis, that irks me a little, yeah.

I don’t see an issue with it? It’s a form table from a set date, same as form table from the start of the year or any other arbitrary period of time.

[Cods]

Come on you know its dyches fault.

Then can we add the weather to the ever growing list of frustrations, it's bloody freezing and it's April?

[Cods]

I don’t see an issue with it? It’s a form table from a set date, same as form table from the start of the year or any other arbitrary period of time.

I understand, and I'm not having a crack at you, but as you know form tables are entirely dependent upon who played who, and when the curated snapshot is taken.

They're used as a means to push a talking point rather than being actually something of value, or interest.

As I said a week or two ago, Everton played only top half teams, plus Palace, in that run, and the table is conveniently started the game after our last win. These tables are disengenuous. What does the form table look like if it picks up the four games immediately prior? That would be more relevant, as the league table in its entirety is.

It should be no surprise to anyone that teams at the bottom of the table have considerable periods without winning a game, that's why they're where they are.

Had the fixtures been in a slightly different order, or the snapshot taken over a slightly different timeperiod, then it wouldn't even be mentioned. And rightly so.

[Kerryblueboy]

Luton lost Brentford drew if we could win Saturday it would be huge

[NomadskiEFC]

I understand, and I'm not having a crack at you, but as you know form tables are entirely dependent upon who played who, and when the curated snapshot is taken.

They're used as a means to push a talking point rather than being actually something of value, or interest.

As I said a week or two ago, Everton played only top half teams, plus Palace, in that run, and the table is conveniently started the game after our last win. These tables are disengenuous. What does the form table look like if it picks up the four games immediately prior? That would be more relevant, as the league table in its entirety is.

It should be no surprise to anyone that teams at the bottom of the table have considerable periods without winning a game, that's why they're where they are.

Had the fixtures been in a slightly different order, or the snapshot taken over a slightly different timeperiod, then it wouldn't even be mentioned. And rightly so.

I get what you’re saying and I agree with many of your points, but I think applying the argument would make any form table from any set date redundant, even the current league table could be said to be without value as teams haven’t played the exact same fixtures as each other.

I do agree you have to take the presented info with context for sure, but where do you draw the lines of validity on a form table?

[Sir Stealth]

Luton 0 wins in 10 games - similarly shite to us!they do look like they are playing better football than us, would worry for us against them in a head to head winner takes all match - which it might actually come down to


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