Financial Fairplay Investigation - 2025 Nobody in Breach

[Cozzie]

This is a good summary thread of the findings, with some consideration of what a more "fair" punishment might look like:
https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1725537281623138793

Interesting thread.

Good read.

[blueToffee]

This is a good summary thread of the findings, with some consideration of what a more "fair" punishment might look like:
https://twitter.com/mikeygow/status/1725537281623138793

A good summary, thanks.

[eyesalwaysblue]

The light at the end of the tunnel always gets snuffed out one way or another

[Cozzie]

So based on what I read there, unless I never understood it, is that a fairer punishment would have been 5 points?

Still not sure how they change their minds here.

[Toddacelli]

We have also been working openly and transparently with the PL for the last two years. Our relegation battles have been because we have tried to do the right thing and we have not been able to sign anyone without their approval. So how we’re now getting fucked when they approved it is anybody’s guess.

[Trowel]

https://twitter.com/GiuliaBould/status/1725657544989745363

[Trowel]

Edit: seems this is the PL prosecuting team, rather than the independent panel as claimed. https://twitter.com/sarahblue1878/status/1725599604333273240

[TheRam]

Just can’t believe this.

A ten point deduction never entered my mind. I thought worse case scenario would be a big fine with maybe a transfer ban.

This is just beyond belief. One of the biggest stories in the history of the league. And one of the biggest injustices if we are the only team to be dealt with in such a manner.

I don’t see how city, Chelsea and even Newcastle can get away with what they’re doing after this.

[biziclop]

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... -excessive

[Big Nevs Vaz]

We are being made an example of because of our ties to Uzmanov and this is where the problem starts and ends. However, I think the punishment is still completely disproportionate and a kicking that they won’t be able to or be prepared to give City or Chelsea. I have always despised the characterisation that we as a fan base are bitter. How could we not be. We stand together punished as a result of actions out of our hands yet again. We will overcome. Up the fucking toffees.

[blueToffee]

We are being made an example of because of our ties to Uzmanov and this is where the problem starts and ends. However, I think the punishment is still completely disproportionate and a kicking that they won’t be able to or be prepared to give City or Chelsea. I have always despised the characterisation that we as a fan base are bitter. How could we not be. We stand together punished as a result of actions out of our hands yet again. We will overcome. Up the fucking toffees.

We've been made an example of because we're not one of the elites and we're a much softer target with far fewer financial and media resources to fight back. If they wanted to make an actual example they could've done it years and years ago with the likes of Chelsea whose funding was far greater and from similar sources.

Anything else is a convenient excuse for them.

[Blueomar]

We are being made an example of because of our ties to Uzmanov and this is where the problem starts and ends. However, I think the punishment is still completely disproportionate and a kicking that they won’t be able to or be prepared to give City or Chelsea. I have always despised the characterisation that we as a fan base are bitter. How could we not be. We stand together punished as a result of actions out of our hands yet again. We will overcome. Up the fucking toffees.

A lot of people/institutions that are far more dodgy than uncle Al are currently controlling prem clubs.

[blueToffee]

Just can’t believe this.

A ten point deduction never entered my mind. I thought worse case scenario would be a big fine with maybe a transfer ban.

This is just beyond belief. One of the biggest stories in the history of the league. And one of the biggest injustices if we are the only team to be dealt with in such a manner.

I don’t see how city, Chelsea and even Newcastle can get away with what they’re doing after this.

But they will. I mean even on a basic level, they'll never in a million years be punished in a proportional way to what they've done to us as that would literally mean docking them 1000 pts or something. Clearly, never happening. Add to that they've avoided at every juncture to go after the teams that created this situation to begin with.

They have no interest in shooting the golden goose, but they're happy to drown the tin duck I guess to say they're taking it seriously. They have no interest either in actual financial fair play, sustainability, or fairness in general, they just want the appearance of it and to have the threat of oversight go away. Just like all the other initiatives they create, remember when they were serious about clamping down on diving for half a second? Or even this season the laughably unequally applied extended injury time for time wasting and stoppages. Just window dressing, and this is more of the same.

[blueToffee]

Not helpful to add, but just vacillating between anger and sadness.

Looking at the league table from the half way point of last year, we were on 15pts at that stage, weirdly we were on 13pts after 12 games too (only a point less than we were before today). So we need 11 pts from the next 7 games to reach even that (not great) level considering how we scraped over the line. That's a tough ask.

The seven games in question are:
Man United (h)
Forest (a)
Newcastle (h)
Chelsea (h)
Burnley (a)
Tottenham (a)
Man City (h)

Not many easy games there, the last two are almost write offs. Those are some pretty difficult fixtures really. Hard to say with big confidence we're getting 11 pts from that lot, we'd have to go on an unbelievable run. The likelihood would remain under or around 10 by the halfway point would be pretty high. In which case the only way we survive is the teams around us are dropping a similar amount of points.

I would add, on balance looking through Burnley, Sheffield Utd and Luton's fixtures that they also have some of the bigger teams to play still. So really the bar is just trying to stay in touch with those 3 by the halfway point to start with.

[Shogun]

What were Southampton, Leeds and Leicester at that stage?