Patto

[brap2]

I've decided to throw my hat into the Patto ring and back the young man.

In a familiar story for Everton, we're in a situation where we've spent millions on a lad bought by a manager who's since gone, and he's out of form, out of shape and out the team, leaving us millions down on an investment with a seat taken on the squad by someone who's basically being seen as a busted flush.

Not a lot we can do about his injury record, but he's had some time off over the summer so hopefully we can build him up.

He does need games. If we're ever going to see him really as a player he needs games games games. Will he be good enough, honestly fucking no idea but it would be massive for the club if he could, and it would be massive for the lad.

He's going to be rusty, there's huge question marks and his injury record is awful, but if we can get him fit then maybe there's a chance he can kick on. Come on Patto.

[StirlingBlue]

On paper him our line up should be a great fit for him.

He’s an attacking player who likes getting forward and loading crosses into the box and we have:

1) A manager who likes crosses and has got the best out of people like Trippier in the past.
2) We play left footed right wingers who can happily drift inside to make space for him.
3) A defensive fullback in Mykolenko on the opposite side who can happily stay back when Patterson goes forward
4) In DCL a player who thrives on crosses into the box.

[StirlingBlue]

I’d also add that we’re it not for the issues at RB we have I’d be advocating for playing him at right RW due to his pace and right footedness, something we sorely lack to spread teams

[AjaxAndy]

I was ready to back him, said over the summer we need to just play him at the start of the season when there was less pressure and he could be afforded some mistakes.

Unfortunately by the time he comes back fully fit we'll have lost at least 4 games, and so the situation is once again not really conducive to giving him that patience.

But look there's really no other option. Young and Coleman can't be relied on for multiple reasons and there's literally no one else.. so yeah get him in as soon as he's fully fit and hope he can develop and stay injury free.

[Cozzie]

I was saying this to my mate last night, we didn't end up signing that all important RW we where tracking in the window. Just lash Patterson there, or at least give him a whirl there.

I think the main reason Dyche doesn't fancy him is he simply wants his full backs to defend.

Obviously none of our full backs can defend bar Mykolenko so I doubt we will be seeing much of him at RB.

I still think we would be better off with Patto at RB. Coleman and Young are finished and Dixon is an unknown as of yet.

At least Patto is good going forward. Rather have 50% of something than 100% of nothing with Coleman/Young.

He needs at least a chance to prove himself, he's never had a consistent run. I'm still hoping we do maybe see him on the right like but who knows. His relationship with Dyche is a weird one, we'll see.

[Gash]

I'd love it to work out here for him, national bias but I think the lad could be really good, technically he's decent but defensively needs a bit of work but that could come with coaching and games. I've said before but he's another young player we've let down a bit, we spent a lot of money on him and for one reason or another haven't helped that investment, he's been needed to cover/play right back so we've not been able to give him a decent loan somewhere and hopefully get 30-40 games under his belt. I don't know that he's that injury prone, a couple of his longer term injuries have come from impacts, iirc one was in training for Scotland and he seems to get them at the wrong time too, either just as he's getting going or towards the end of the season so he misses the start of the next or isn't fit enough to be loaned out. The other injuries he's going to get because he's not getting regular games to build up strength and fitness.

Unfortunately I don't think Dyche rates him so this season he'll just sit on the bench watching Ashley Young make a cunt of things or come on when Coleman gets another injury. Why we would play Young or Coleman over a promising youngster is baffling but it's the kind of thing we do here and have done for years.

[Paddockoldie]

I've said before I'd try him as a RW if he's not making it defensively as a RB. He's got pace, likes to attack and can cross... Worth a go

[Silas]

He might be shit but rather young and shit with potential to get better, than old and shit and on the decline.

[Raptor]

Its a difficult one as whats become apparent is he has the defensive traits of TAA and the attacking threat of Wan Bissaka, its not a great mix for a modern day full back

[brap2]

I don't think that's really true at all if you've watched him at all.

When he's played at our U23 level for example he stands out like a sore thumb as being miles above that level.

But he is v rusty and we haven't seen him get in and around the box as much as he did for rangers and Scotland when he was flying.

He's definitely got more than we've seen.

[blueforyou]

Would like to try him and Garner on the right hand side, potentially cohesive, with flexibility to be interchangeable:

2/7) Patterson; 4) Tarkowski; 5) Branthwaite; 3) Mykolenko
7/2) Garner; 6) Mangala; 8) Iroegbunam; 11) McNeil

On paper, well balanced

[Paddockoldie]

Would like to try him and Garner on the right hand side, potentially cohesive, with flexibility to be interchangeable:

2/7) Patterson; 4) Tarkowski; 5) Branthwaite; 3) Mykolenko
7/2) Garner; 6) Mangala; 8) Iroegbunam; 11) McNeil

On paper, well balanced

I'd prefer Garner as RB and Patto RW as an experiment

[Raptor]

I don't think that's really true at all if you've watched him at all.

When he's played at our U23 level for example he stands out like a sore thumb as being miles above that level.

But he is v rusty and we haven't seen him get in and around the box as much as he did for rangers and Scotland when he was flying.

He's definitely got more than we've seen.

I dont really watch that the U23, but I also dont really recall him playing for them either? But that said, there are better players than him have looked good at that level and failed to progress, the step up is significant.
I was really excited when we got him, but I just dont see it anymore and as the sample size grows its less and less impressive. Even at Rangers his stats werent great, but it came with the tag of 'lots of potential', but when is that potential going to materialise? I want nothing more than Young and Coleman to be a distant memory and him to pick up the mantle, but when you're third in the pecking order behind two OAPs you clearly arent doing enough in games or training, which is worrying.

[Paddockoldie]

Unless it's a personal thing between him and Dyche? The 'playful' clip/slap on the head maybe has more to it. Pure speculation obviously

[The Doc]

He's had some good spells, under Lampard until he got injured for example. The main problem is the injuries and not being match fit through inconsistency, in my opinion.

Add to that a couple of defensive lapses and Dyche just hasn't fancied him. It's on Patterson to change his mind with staying fit and performing in training.

He has all the attributes to hold a position down, he might come of age this season.