James Garner

This is the new NSNO Everton forum to discuss the Mighty Blues
brap2
Posts: 4250
Karma: 3959

Re: James Garner

Post

Was he any good?
TheRam
Posts: 6206
Karma: 6309

Re: James Garner

Post

Did ok.

Considering was his first start, out of position and he was struggling with illness he did fine.

Think he has a decent future in that position.
The Doc
Posts: 1318
Karma: 860

Re: James Garner

Post

Great cross for the disallowed goal (if I remember correctly)
Kerryblueboy
Posts: 2435
Karma: 659

Re: James Garner

Post

Would have loved him to work the keeper with the free kick Lindstrom might have had a better go if he was put on
sam of the south
Posts: 1863
Karma: 1430

Re: James Garner

Post

What was he like at stopping crosses and keeping up with the winger?
AjaxAndy
Posts: 4752
Karma: 2166

Re: James Garner

Post

sam of the south wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:48 am What was he like at stopping crosses and keeping up with the winger?
Pretty good, was up against Harvey Barnes and I'd say won that battle.

Put in a peach of a cross for Doucoure's disallowed goal too.

Didn't get forward much though and so it's hard to know if he's actually a good RB overall or just someone who's capable of playing there if the tactics are very defensive.
Bluedylan1
Posts: 4158
Karma: 4730

Re: James Garner

Post

They did get in on their left a few times in the first half, but I don't think that was Garner's fault particularly. Newcastle overloaded on the right and the centre a few times, and then hit the big switch out to the left and had Barnes/Gordon isolated against Garner, and a few times the same happened on the counter.

Garner did well, and I'm not remotely a fan of his. He definitely has more to offer at right back than in centre mid. If he was to hold down the position for a run of games, I think you might see a bit more in an attacking sense as he adjusts to the role.
777Kidnappings
Posts: 2937
Karma: 1657

Re: James Garner

Post

Still can't believe the dcl 1 wasn't a penalty and that's apparently the rule. Yes he kicked the defender but purely because he dived between him and the ball as he went to shoot. Surely that's not allowed either
Kerryblueboy
Posts: 2435
Karma: 659

Re: James Garner

Post

777Kidnappings wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:05 pm Still can't believe the dcl 1 wasn't a penalty and that's apparently the rule. Yes he kicked the defender but purely because he dived between him and the ball as he went to shoot. Surely that's not allowed either
Doesn’t burn put his leg between dcl and the ball stopping dcl from scoring it’s a nailed on pen for me like I said elsewhere if gana scores the rebound the goal would stand so it should be a pen
AjaxAndy
Posts: 4752
Karma: 2166

Re: James Garner

Post

777Kidnappings wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:05 pm Still can't believe the dcl 1 wasn't a penalty and that's apparently the rule. Yes he kicked the defender but purely because he dived between him and the ball as he went to shoot. Surely that's not allowed either
Yeah apparently if a striker is about to shoot you're allowed to put your foot between his swinging leg and the ball, making no attempt to play the latter and ensuring the striker can't either.

It's a foul, it's literally foul play. It's a deliberate action to prevent the striker making contact with the ball.

It's just another stupidly thought out black and white rule the premier league have concocted that actually creates more of an issue than it solves.

It also won't be applied consistently thus meaning some will be given whilst others won't.

Jags was saying afterwards that it's one of those where is the ref gives it then it probably won't be over turned and vice versa... But then we're back to the issue of refs not making a decision on something like this and relying on VAR to do it for them, but the fact they didn't give it means VAR can't then over rule it unless it's clear and obvious... This making the non decision a decision in itself.

I fucking hate it when rules like this come in that actually make no sense whatsoever, but there's at least one every season the premier league decide to implement.
Paddockoldie
Posts: 1405
Karma: 685

Re: James Garner

Post

I'd rather have situations were you win or lose based on the ref seeing it or not, than the ref not indicating an issue then being told to look again and have his opinion overruled. I anticipate a VAR with every goal we score now.
Stumpy
Posts: 729
Karma: 382

Re: James Garner

Post

AjaxAndy wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:48 pm Yeah apparently if a striker is about to shoot you're allowed to put your foot between his swinging leg and the ball, making no attempt to play the latter and ensuring the striker can't either.

It's a foul, it's literally foul play. It's a deliberate action to prevent the striker making contact with the ball.

It's just another stupidly thought out black and white rule the premier league have concocted that actually creates more of an issue than it solves.

It also won't be applied consistently thus meaning some will be given whilst others won't.

Jags was saying afterwards that it's one of those where is the ref gives it then it probably won't be over turned and vice versa... But then we're back to the issue of refs not making a decision on something like this and relying on VAR to do it for them, but the fact they didn't give it means VAR can't then over rule it unless it's clear and obvious... This making the non decision a decision in itself.

I fucking hate it when rules like this come in that actually make no sense whatsoever, but there's at least one every season the premier league decide to implement.
Yeah, with you all the way on this.
You would think with all the incompetence of var over the years where they can't even get the basics right that bringing in idiotic rules would only make it worse, and it has.
Last night's incident would have been called a foul anywhere else on the field but not in the area, why? it makes no sense whatsoever
Toddacelli
User avatar
Posts: 1765
Karma: 1805

Re: James Garner

Post

The rules are clearly not made by people who play the game. They’re probably also made from a perspective biased towards referees having an easier time.
“Let’s bring in a rule that accounts for this issue so we can make a clear decision and avoid any criticism.”

But when players are coming together physically in all kinds of situations, speeds, sizes, weights, there will never be a one size fits all binary process.

Keep it simple - was it foul play? And then give refs the freedom to interpret. This will invite criticism, but it absolutely fucking should. We all get criticism or feedback in our jobs and we’re expected to use it to get better. Referees should do the same.
brap2
Posts: 4250
Karma: 3959

Re: James Garner

Post

On James Garner - did well, grew into the role and benefited from them taking Barnes off who is a v good player.
4evablu
User avatar
Posts: 531
Karma: 170

Re: James Garner

Post

I don’t understand why dyche didn’t go ballistic and force Paulson to look at the monitor !!
He went to the monitor quick enough for their pen….never even thght about it for ours….
Which basically sums up the train of thought towards Everton by premier league officials this season….
WBFBTPL
Post Reply Previous topicNext topic