Next Everton Manager
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Agree he is well qualified but would he want such a high pressure Job ? He strikes me as a very introverted character who is in his comfort zone coaching the under 21s which is hardly a high pressure job, it’s a development role, not really in the spotlight, not sure the ambition is there ?
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Hasn't he turned down much smaller jobs in the past because he didn't want the pressure?
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Not sure why you'd want Carsley over Potter tbh. Is it the Everton connection?
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Looks like Ancelotti will be available again at the end of the season. Fools dream I suppose.
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Carsely has done nowt to justify him getting the job. Would be a massive risk. Might be brilliant might be completely out of his depth. Don't think we are in a position to take such a big risk
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Would have potter over him defo.
A few others as well but wouldn’t mind us going for Carsley at all.
The Everton connection plays a big part but I think even without that he’d be getting a mention.
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Carsley has proper disaster written all over him if he came here imo. Would need brilliant recruitment to get the players in he'd need. Otherwise you're looking at Mykolenko trying to play as an inverted full back and a midfield of Gana and Tim trying to pop it around like prime Iniesta and Xavi.
Has a lot of potential as a manager and I do very much like his ethos, but he could easily bomb here if he's philosophy over substance. We just don't have the players or funds to make such a radical change.
I'd be for it if I felt we could recruit enough of the right players in one window and he could get them to gel, but he's got no experience of managing at club level let alone one in such a period of transition, and I doubt very much we'd give him all the tools he'd need to succeed, and I'm not convinced he has the experience to adapt if we didn't.
Would be the manager after this next one rather than someone I'd want right now.
Has a lot of potential as a manager and I do very much like his ethos, but he could easily bomb here if he's philosophy over substance. We just don't have the players or funds to make such a radical change.
I'd be for it if I felt we could recruit enough of the right players in one window and he could get them to gel, but he's got no experience of managing at club level let alone one in such a period of transition, and I doubt very much we'd give him all the tools he'd need to succeed, and I'm not convinced he has the experience to adapt if we didn't.
Would be the manager after this next one rather than someone I'd want right now.
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I like him and would love at some point in the future but he really needs experience of being the main man at some level outside of national management first.
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This view of him as a wildly radical, naive Pep-like experimentalist with inverted full backs is clearly a misrepresentation. For example, he was appointed as a full-time ''out of possession'' coach for all England teams between U15 and U21 in one of his roles. He's an expert at player development, something this club badly needs to refocus on as a guiding principle moving forward. We need to improve the players we have and the players we sign in the future, and not just look to the market for the solution to everything.
He's incredibly well thought of around the game and has already had numerous promotions based on job performance in the different setups he's been involved with. You don't get jobs with the Man City U18s and all through the England youth teams without being very highly regarded in the field.
Whether he'd want it or not we don't know for sure. But I would certainly ask the question. Expectations are low here. There is no pressure to challenge for Top 6 in the next 2 seasons. There is time to build something, and have a progressive young manager who is well versed in current tactics and knows how to handle young people, and get them to achieve and perform.
There are plenty of other good options but I think he would be an outstanding candidate if he wanted the job.
He's incredibly well thought of around the game and has already had numerous promotions based on job performance in the different setups he's been involved with. You don't get jobs with the Man City U18s and all through the England youth teams without being very highly regarded in the field.
Whether he'd want it or not we don't know for sure. But I would certainly ask the question. Expectations are low here. There is no pressure to challenge for Top 6 in the next 2 seasons. There is time to build something, and have a progressive young manager who is well versed in current tactics and knows how to handle young people, and get them to achieve and perform.
There are plenty of other good options but I think he would be an outstanding candidate if he wanted the job.
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Seems to me like good, young managers are dismissed immediately.
If you’re an ambitious, progressive manager you’re somehow naive and will be a disaster at Everton.
I see it the other way. We have a good base of player there that can play much better football than we’ve seen.
I think we can have two years adding to the foundations and creating a forward thinking way of playing without having too much pressure on results.
Top half within the next two years playing football that the fans and players enjoy is easily achievable.
It’s not like managers like Carsley and potter are mad men who’ll throw 10 men forward and leave you constantly exposed.
They’re all about structure. Play quickly through the pitch, get men forward but have a structure that means you’re not open on the counter.
The whole point of the inverted full back is to create overloads in the middle of the pitch on the ball, but off it you have an extra man to win in back.
Dyche has shown himself to be so far off the modern way of playing it’s become embarrassing to watch us.
He’s got people thinking we are incapable of better because he’s dragging the players down to his level.
If you’re an ambitious, progressive manager you’re somehow naive and will be a disaster at Everton.
I see it the other way. We have a good base of player there that can play much better football than we’ve seen.
I think we can have two years adding to the foundations and creating a forward thinking way of playing without having too much pressure on results.
Top half within the next two years playing football that the fans and players enjoy is easily achievable.
It’s not like managers like Carsley and potter are mad men who’ll throw 10 men forward and leave you constantly exposed.
They’re all about structure. Play quickly through the pitch, get men forward but have a structure that means you’re not open on the counter.
The whole point of the inverted full back is to create overloads in the middle of the pitch on the ball, but off it you have an extra man to win in back.
Dyche has shown himself to be so far off the modern way of playing it’s become embarrassing to watch us.
He’s got people thinking we are incapable of better because he’s dragging the players down to his level.
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Couldn’t agree more.TheRam wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:25 am Seems to me like good, young managers are dismissed immediately.
If you’re an ambitious, progressive manager you’re somehow naive and will be a disaster at Everton.
I see it the other way. We have a good base of player there that can play much better football than we’ve seen.
I think we can have two years adding to the foundations and creating a forward thinking way of playing without having too much pressure on results.
Top half within the next two years playing football that the fans and players enjoy is easily achievable.
It’s not like managers like Carsley and potter are mad men who’ll throw 10 men forward and leave you constantly exposed.
They’re all about structure. Play quickly through the pitch, get men forward but have a structure that means you’re not open on the counter.
The whole point of the inverted full back is to create overloads in the middle of the pitch on the ball, but off it you have an extra man to win in back.
Dyche has shown himself to be so far off the modern way of playing it’s become embarrassing to watch us.
He’s got people thinking we are incapable of better because he’s dragging the players down to his level.
If the new owners’ first managerial appointment is another dinosaur ultra-pragmatist or yesterday’s man, I’ll be proper sulking.
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Do need to get this sentimental stuff out of our minds. It's stinks of the Kenwright regime and it's still filtering into the mindset of our fanbase. Carsley would not last more than six months at Everton. He would be like a new manager bounce. International football is totally different to club football. Don't get me wrong I think he has some great qualities in nurchuring and bringing through some of the young talent at the under 21s, but I don't see him translating this to club football. Our academy in itself needs revamping. Pressure of club football are far greater than at national level.
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Carsley is different. It's a million miles away from Dunc 'getting hold of this lot' or whatever. He's genuinely very highly rated.