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Could be. I don't think the Friedkins will go backwards though. They seem to exercise risk and/or ambition based on the managers they brought in at Roma. Potter seems the most likely option to me.
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Was a report in the mail that they wanted moyes. It's a pretty dull appointment but I do still think we need safety first approach. Think I'd rather moyes than a punt on someone like Carsley. We need to build a foundation where we aren't worried about relegation every season before we can take big risks
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The foundations are there.
A good manager should have this squad nowhere near the relegation scramble.
A good manager should have this squad nowhere near the relegation scramble.
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Hmmm, they went back 14 years to re-appoint Ranieri who was retired, and Juric was massively risky, but that was mainly due to the fact he was a pretty abysmal manager and mate no sense at all.
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Wasn't Ranieri there about three years ago for a few months? Good point though
Juric is why I said and/or!
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What McKenna has done at Ipswich has been outstanding. He should definately be in the running. Thomas Frank would suit us down to the ground but whether he would leave Brentford or not I am not sure.
Mourinho would be fun but not sure that’s the way we should go. Potter would also be extremely interesting to see how if he could get us playing in a way that the fans and he wants to.
Mourinho would be fun but not sure that’s the way we should go. Potter would also be extremely interesting to see how if he could get us playing in a way that the fans and he wants to.
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The quotes from Carl Darlington last week make reasonably clear that - if TFG stand behind Thelwell and the DOF model - it's unlikely Potter would suit us. It seems we'd prefer a coach like... Marco Silva:
“We looked at clubs across the world, the international game and where Everton measure against that standard and what it means for what we needed to do.
“We wanted to ask our coaches ‘What does great look like’ and that research project meant we could go back to them with tangible evidence.”
Working groups formed from the coaching teams were set up and asked to present ideas over a fortnight in terms of in and out of possession work and transitional moments. There were, Darlington admits, some “interesting arguments” over what mattered but a vision was hashed out and presented to Thelwell and first-team coaches Steve Stone and Ian Woan for their feedback.
From that came their game model – a set of principles taught to academy players that form a core part of the club’s identity moving forward.
The club decided that rather than a fixed style of play, they would be flexible, working on three different formations: 4-4-2, 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 that they learn in blocks of six weeks across the season.
So young central midfield players in the academy learn how to play in a two, three or four across the middle, full-backs play as orthodox defenders and wing-backs while centre-backs are coached to play in a four or a three.
Their strikers are taught to play as a nine, as a two up front or in a three or a four up top.
“If you’re a player coming through you’ve got to be flexible in terms of your understanding of the game nowadays,” Darlington says.
i sees the presentation delivered to coaches and players which sets out this model, as well as the curriculum agreed on among the staff to deliver it. It is seriously detailed.
So what are the Everton principles? “Out of possession of the ball Everton teams are front-foot,” Darlington explains.
“We have dropped the word defending from the model. We changed it to attacking without the ball to get the mentality right.
“We want Everton teams to be high up the pitch, pressing teams, getting the fan off their seat in terms of press. [We want to be] front-foot, aggressive, trying to get the ball high up the pitch, going in waves of support in terms of trying to defend from the front. We want a really aggressive, front foot mentality.
“When we get the ball we don’t want to be a Manchester City type team, a 75 per cent possession team, because it’s not Everton Football Club.
“We call it having controlled, purposeful possession. We have control of games and purposeful possession to get up the pitch.
“We want a bit more guile around us trying to get up the pitch and how we exploit overloads and then when we get there speeding the game up.
“Those are the fundamentals we’re trying to drill into the players. A front-foot mentality, purposeful possession.”
“We looked at clubs across the world, the international game and where Everton measure against that standard and what it means for what we needed to do.
“We wanted to ask our coaches ‘What does great look like’ and that research project meant we could go back to them with tangible evidence.”
Working groups formed from the coaching teams were set up and asked to present ideas over a fortnight in terms of in and out of possession work and transitional moments. There were, Darlington admits, some “interesting arguments” over what mattered but a vision was hashed out and presented to Thelwell and first-team coaches Steve Stone and Ian Woan for their feedback.
From that came their game model – a set of principles taught to academy players that form a core part of the club’s identity moving forward.
The club decided that rather than a fixed style of play, they would be flexible, working on three different formations: 4-4-2, 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 that they learn in blocks of six weeks across the season.
So young central midfield players in the academy learn how to play in a two, three or four across the middle, full-backs play as orthodox defenders and wing-backs while centre-backs are coached to play in a four or a three.
Their strikers are taught to play as a nine, as a two up front or in a three or a four up top.
“If you’re a player coming through you’ve got to be flexible in terms of your understanding of the game nowadays,” Darlington says.
i sees the presentation delivered to coaches and players which sets out this model, as well as the curriculum agreed on among the staff to deliver it. It is seriously detailed.
So what are the Everton principles? “Out of possession of the ball Everton teams are front-foot,” Darlington explains.
“We have dropped the word defending from the model. We changed it to attacking without the ball to get the mentality right.
“We want Everton teams to be high up the pitch, pressing teams, getting the fan off their seat in terms of press. [We want to be] front-foot, aggressive, trying to get the ball high up the pitch, going in waves of support in terms of trying to defend from the front. We want a really aggressive, front foot mentality.
“When we get the ball we don’t want to be a Manchester City type team, a 75 per cent possession team, because it’s not Everton Football Club.
“We call it having controlled, purposeful possession. We have control of games and purposeful possession to get up the pitch.
“We want a bit more guile around us trying to get up the pitch and how we exploit overloads and then when we get there speeding the game up.
“Those are the fundamentals we’re trying to drill into the players. A front-foot mentality, purposeful possession.”
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That's disappointing to read.
I'm so fucking sick of this narrative that we're a bunch of neanderthals that can't abide a team that controls the ball. I was at plenty of matches in Martinez's first season where the Goodison crowd was absolutely creaming themselves at the way we were knocking the ball about.
As long as you're playing well and actually progressing then it doesn't matter how you play.
I'm so fucking sick of this narrative that we're a bunch of neanderthals that can't abide a team that controls the ball. I was at plenty of matches in Martinez's first season where the Goodison crowd was absolutely creaming themselves at the way we were knocking the ball about.
As long as you're playing well and actually progressing then it doesn't matter how you play.
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New owners, probably a new DoF, a new manager and need 12 players over Jan/Summer (with PSR restraints). I just don’t see this as a smooth transition into TFG era.
Think their first appointment massively bombs.
Think their first appointment massively bombs.
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If all of the above is correct why does what we see week in and week out seem so far removed from that it's painful. Press? Whens the last time we did that well? Whens the last time we've seen Dyche adapt the teams formation and set up to counter what the oppo is doing? It just never happens.
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As that article says, it’s all about purposeful possession.
You can be direct, you can have low possession whilst still creating chances and controlling the game.
The game is starting to move away from possession and more towards being direct so it’s good that the club is with the curve on that one.
Dyche talks about alignment all the time but he’s making decisions that seem to go against the long term of the club.
The way we play isn’t sustainable, and he’s leaving a long term centre half on the bench for somebody who won’t be here next season.
It’s why managers like him need to be avoided if you want to build long term success.
He’ll never take us forward. Even if he had a better squad you’d still see the same issues.
You can be direct, you can have low possession whilst still creating chances and controlling the game.
The game is starting to move away from possession and more towards being direct so it’s good that the club is with the curve on that one.
Dyche talks about alignment all the time but he’s making decisions that seem to go against the long term of the club.
The way we play isn’t sustainable, and he’s leaving a long term centre half on the bench for somebody who won’t be here next season.
It’s why managers like him need to be avoided if you want to build long term success.
He’ll never take us forward. Even if he had a better squad you’d still see the same issues.
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Not sure I agree with the statement that the game is moving away from possession totally, City's possession for possessions sake is MAYBE being thought of less well. The RS seem to build it up slowly but they have the majority of the ball when they do it