Gash wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:58 pm
That's not right, the crowd got annoyed when he tried a Cruyff turn inside our own six yard box once and he got some stick off some fans at a petrol station after an away defeat. It's nonsense to say the crowd hated him.
To be fair I think there were more instances of the crowd grumbling at stones, but that one stands out as (I think) he turned around to tell the crowd to calm down.
I don't think it was hate, but his 'antics' as the guy in front of me used to say, weren't appreciated by some.
The Brighton fans had enough of Potter and we're booing a lot of his latter performances at the end, that's not negating the work he did prior, but was it that great? In his first 2 seasons at Brighton he finished 16th and 15th and it was only the third he got 9th, Chris Hughton had them finishing 15th and 17th and that was after promotion, so you could argue that's a bigger achievement.
But he was found out at Chelsea no matter what people say, his record is actually worse than Lampard over his two spells at 39%, that's with all the same issues Maresca has flourished under.
His time at Brighton, imo, was helped more by their recruitment, rather than his tactical genius, avoid!
TheRam wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:47 pm
Mad how dan burn, Lewis dunk, and dale stephens managed it.
Almost like it’s more about the system, where you want the players to be and how you coach the players than it is the individuals.
Some of our players are capable of more, but I doubt the next manager will have the magic bullet that'll make the rest of them improve when countless coaches and managers across multiple teams have failed in the past. At some point it's ok for us to admit that we have some extremely limited players who can be effective when utilised the right way.
If he can make a strong passing side that operates like brighton and still includes myko, doucs, tarks and gueye then I'll be genuinely shocked, and I could probably add to that list.
I rate Silva more highly than Potter, so I would definitely feel a little underwhelmed with his appointment, though I'd enjoy the football 1000-fold more than I do now.
UnsyisaRhino wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:41 pm
Some of our players are capable of more, but I doubt the next manager will have the magic bullet that'll make the rest of them improve when countless coaches and managers across multiple teams have failed in the past. At some point it's ok for us to admit that we have some extremely limited players who can be effective when utilised the right way.
If he can make a strong passing side that operates like brighton and still includes myko, doucs, tarks and gueye then I'll be genuinely shocked, and I could probably add to that list.
I think he could get this squad playing much better football than Sean dyche.
I don’t think it’s even a debate at this point.
Some individuals may struggle, a lot will show a better side to them.
I certainly wouldn’t dismiss anybody in a better system.
The way potter likes to play hasn’t been coached into this group of players for a long time so it’s hard to me to dismiss any of them.
I think silva was the last manager to have us playing a similar type of system and only DCL, Pickford and Coleman are left from that era so I don’t understand the point about multiple managers?
Raptor wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:33 pm
The Brighton fans had enough of Potter and we're booing a lot of his latter performances at the end, that's not negating the work he did prior, but was it that great? In his first 2 seasons at Brighton he finished 16th and 15th and it was only the third he got 9th, Chris Hughton had them finishing 15th and 17th and that was after promotion, so you could argue that's a bigger achievement.
But he was found out at Chelsea no matter what people say, his record is actually worse than Lampard over his two spells at 39%, that's with all the same issues Maresca has flourished under.
His time at Brighton, imo, was helped more by their recruitment, rather than his tactical genius, avoid!
Pretty much my concerns about Potter but I’ve nothing against the guy, would support him if he came here and be more than happy for him to prove me wrong
That’s the squad Graham potter inherited at Brighton.
I seem to recall he had them playing well from the off.
There’s loads of players amongst that squad who people would have said can’t play his style of football.
He wouldn’t have an issue with this squad.
Also, Jack Harrison’s best football of his career come under Marcelo Bielsa so he’ll be fine as well.
His midfield options in that squad were Bissouma, Mac Allister, Gross, Trossard, March and Propper, most of whom were a young age, but also really good footballers hence where they are playing now. I genuinely dont think any of our midfield options would get near that team
Raptor wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:18 pm
His midfield options in that squad were Bissouma, Mac Allister, Gross, Trossard, March and Propper, most of whom were a young age, but also really good footballers hence where they are playing now. I genuinely dont think any of our midfield options would get near that team
All good, young players who needed a coach to develop them into top class footballers.
Another plus for potter. He can be trusted with those types of signings whereas dyche can’t.
TheRam wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:29 pm
All good, young players who needed a coach to develop them into top class footballers.
Another plus for potter. He can be trusted with those types of signings whereas dyche can’t.
Maybe, but he only got that talented midfield to finish 15th and 16th, I wonder what Dyche would do with that quality, rather than Doucoure?
And I'm not saying I'd rather have Dyche, but he has to make do with what he's has, I think Potter would be much more down the line of trying to polish a turd, no matter what the results were
I've always had doubts over Potter myself. I'd rather look for someone of the type Brighton have. When De Zerbi left I expected them to crash, then they bring in a new guy and they're even better. The talent is out there.
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:28 pm
So apparently though it's Dyche's fault Doucoure hasn't been able to pass a ball his whole career... Can't wait for Potter to coach him to do so
Of all the posts to jump on I'm at a loss for why you decided the idea of Doucoure being asked to pass a ball in a possession side was the one
What?
How have you even got that from what I said?
Honestly, some of the posts in this thread are beyond simple.
