Maybe you're judging this seasons underperformance against last seasons over performance? Rather than against par
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So we *are* under performing?777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:49 pm Maybe you're judging this seasons underperformance against last seasons over performance? Rather than against par
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How in hells name do we have a better squad this year ?superpull wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:23 pm Yet the squad is better this year than it was last year?
So the DoF seems to have pulled a master stroke.
But the manager is doing worse than he did last year with a better squad. Which is the kind of thing that calls into question his suitability.
FWIW, I think he should get to the Spurs game. So 6 games. Less than 4 points and I think we need to pull the trigger
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Onana is a monster, but in no way would Dyche ever play to his strengths. So, selling him on the quasi-cheap? Bad for Everton holistically, but doesn't make a "Dyche squad" worse.
I still can't believe how little people thought of/saw in Onana, yet still hold a death grip on their Ross Barkley trutherisms.
I still can't believe how little people thought of/saw in Onana, yet still hold a death grip on their Ross Barkley trutherisms.
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Yeah absolutely but probably not overly significantly. Probably not to want the manager sacked now coming off the back or 4 points in 2 games
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Yep. The manager talks a lot about the ‘feel’. Honestly Sean mate, it feels fucked.Raptor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:48 pm People massively underestimate the impact of fans in all of this.
Lampard never kept us up the fans did, similar to last season, Dyche did a lot better than Lampard but the fans created an atmosphere where it was us against the world, and it galvanised the team, Dyche did contribute to that, so fair play. This season there isn't that edge and theres certainly not that feeling of togetherness with the manager, it's tiring and feels like it's run it's course, and I don't think it's a coincidence that results have been impacted
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Onana Vs Mangala - draw.
Godfrey Vs O'Brien - Godfrey played more and so contributed more.
Ndaiye Vs Danjuma - Ndaiye all day.
That leaves:
Iroebugnam who's contributed almost nothing
Broja who hasn't played until a couple of cameos late in game recently so can't really be included in the conversation thus far.
Lindstrom who has been really poor.
I'm not sure the squad is actually any better overall. We've swapped a poor utility player for one who doesn't play, two similar output CMs for each other, brought in a PSR fudge CM who looked like he had potential for the future before being injured for most of the season, a striker who was injured for the first 13 games, and Ndaiye who does genuinely add something that strengthens us.
On top of that Branthwaite has either been injured so we've had to play Keane or looked really rusty once back.
Before anyone turns this in to anything about Dyche I'm not referring to our performances or points gained, or anything to do with the manager's performance... This is purely about if during the first 15 games of this season the squad has been substantially better. It arguably hasn't been, possibly not even stronger at all, definitely not weaker, probably on par.
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I want him gone. I want to enjoy watching Everton again.
He's makes this group of players look worse than they are.
Potter would be my choice.
He's makes this group of players look worse than they are.
Potter would be my choice.
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A shortened version of that reads it’s not dyche a fault we are shit it’s all on the playersAjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:14 am Onana Vs Mangala - draw.
Godfrey Vs O'Brien - Godfrey played more and so contributed more.
Ndaiye Vs Danjuma - Ndaiye all day.
That leaves:
Iroebugnam who's contributed almost nothing
Broja who hasn't played until a couple of cameos late in game recently so can't really be included in the conversation thus far.
Lindstrom who has been really poor.
I'm not sure the squad is actually any better overall. We've swapped a poor utility player for one who doesn't play, two similar output CMs for each other, brought in a PSR fudge CM who looked like he had potential for the future before being injured for most of the season, a striker who was injured for the first 13 games, and Ndaiye who does genuinely add something that strengthens us.
On top of that Branthwaite has either been injured so we've had to play Keane or looked really rusty once back.
Before anyone turns this in to anything about Dyche I'm not referring to our performances or points gained, or anything to do with the manager's performance... This is purely about if during the first 15 games of this season the squad has been substantially better. It arguably hasn't been, possibly not even stronger at all, definitely not weaker, probably on par.
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Why are you even replying to me? Honestly there's no point either of us commenting on the others posts.Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:05 am A shortened version of that reads it’s not dyche a fault we are shit it’s all on the players
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We haven't been very good for years starting this spell of not being very good with the 2nd half of ancelottis last season. Of course the players aren't very good.Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:05 am A shortened version of that reads it’s not dyche a fault we are shit it’s all on the players