David Moyes

[StirlingBlue]

Does Moyes like Doucoure type players? I can't think of any similar that he's played in the past? I know he likes big lumps like Fellaini and Soucek (and he stopped playing him in the) but I don't think they're similar to Doucs.

Behind the striker he’s more recently preferred a smaller more technical player and used Fornals and Lanzini there in his recent West Ham stint.

He’s been playing a double pivot so I assume Gana/Mangala will continue to be first choice although he likes a dribbler in there to carry the ball forward like Rice did for West Ham so unless we sign someone new we’ll likely see Doucouré/Iroegbunam in the two at times

[Gash]

2.5 years of Dyche mark 2 yay!!

New username but still the same boring Waltzer.

[Robioto]

New username but still the same boring Waltzer.

Bloody hell, that explains alot. I didn't realise.

[TheRam]

Yeah, if we're talking lazy, the Dyche parallel is the laziest of all.

It really isn’t.

In terms of people who have managed in the premier league over the last couple of moyes is easily the most comparable to dyche.

We will see largely the same type of football, in the same type of system. Just have to hope moyes does it better.

[AllyBlue14]

Why is speed so good, it's the most important role in the club, arguably. Id rather have waited a week or two, got the right person, rather than the easy lazy option, then be stuck with that for 2.5 years

Why not drag it out for as long as possible, add to the fans' and players' uncertainty, then hamstring whichever point-to-prove charity case we go for with no chance to improve the squad?

[MmmBlueBranthwaite]

New username but still the same boring Waltzer.

Explains a lot

[MmmBlueBranthwaite]

[Silas]

I think Moyes has more ambition than Dyche, that's the main difference. He won't think of surviving as being a huge success aside from this season

[Escalator]

I see the usual reactionary posters getting a downer on things without actually looking at what's happened over the last few days and weeks. This isn't the scenario the owners wanted, they wanted to give Dyche until the end of the the season, get us safe and move the BMD in the PL, it became clear at the beginning of the week that Dyche didn't have the stomach for the fight anymore so the club had to act. This is a compromise appointment that they hope will keep us in the PL, it's imperative that we do, relegation and moving to BMD would be a disaster.

This isn't like Liverpool replacing Klopp where they had months and a stable environment to do so, it needed it done quickly as things had quite clearly turned sour behind the scenes, it's a safe appointment, not a lazy one. It's maybe not the Hollywood signing that some people wanted but it's a far more sensible option than the likes of fucking ten Hag and all the other names that people are throwing around, he's available, knows the club and despite what people may think, is a pretty good manager. It wouldn't be my choice long term and it's perhaps a bit boring but it's easy to see why they've done it and there's plenty of good reasons for it too.

It's typical though, people moaned about Moshiri, so we get rid of one of the worst owners in PL history and the usual posters are out sharpening the knives for the new owners already, people wanted rid of Dyche and they're moaning about his replacement too with out looking at the bigger situation. They've just bailed us out, made us effectively debt free and have huge issues to sort out on and off the field, changing manager wasn't one of them yet here we are with people already saying they've no plan etc. There really is no pleasing some of you.

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[Bluedylan1]

I think on the balance of probabilities, with the cards the Friedkins had dealt to them, this is the right decision.

If Dyche had limped on til the end of the season, we survived and then they appointed Moyes as the next phase of the club, massive red flag. Of course, but that's not the situation we find ourselves in. Mitigation of risk has to be the highest priority right now, before we try to move forward.

Had things worked out that we were changing manager in the summer, I'd have been very happy for someone like Potter, Carsley or Rohl to come in.

If we brought one of them in January with us sitting in 16th, was there a good chance that whoever it was would fail to get to grips with the job, Goodison would become even more anxious and we went backwards? Yes, there probably was. We aren't an easy club to manage and it's hard for more progressive managers to instil their ideas quickly. They often go backwards before they go forwards, which is why the summer is a better bet for those kinds of managers. Is Moyes a safer bet to retain Prem status in this current scenario, with a limited squad? Yes, he probably is.

What does he need to do? Not a crazy amount. The defensive stability is there. We just need a slight upturn in chance creation and goalscoring and we'll ease away from any trouble. We can bring in a couple of players to help with that, and we can use our current squad more effectively than we have been.

And I'm not too worried about 2.5 years on the deal. He was never going to take 6 months, so it was always either 1.5 years or 2.5 years. If they're not convinced or he's not pulling up any trees, they can sack him in the summer or at any point after that. If he somehow last 2.5 years, which I think is highly unlikely, he'll probably have done a good job.

[NickNack]

If he can get us to anywhere near where we were in his last spell here he’ll do for me. Probably not many people’s first choice for our next manager (me included) but good luck and welcome back Davie Moyes OBE

[Kerryblueboy]

It’s all meh really like going back 20 years since he first came in yeah he is vastly experienced and knows the place but it all seems so predictable and boring it’s dyche plus about 30% imo

[sam of the south]

Ugh, that sparked my stockholm a bit

[Bluedylan1]

it’s dyche plus about 30% imo

Which is probably what we need as we sit 16th in January.

In the summer, different story.

[Raptor]

I see the usual reactionary posters getting a downer on things without actually looking at what's happened over the last few days and weeks. This isn't the scenario the owners wanted, they wanted to give Dyche until the end of the the season, get us safe and move to BMD in the PL, it became clear at the beginning of the week that Dyche didn't have the stomach for the fight anymore so the club had to act. This is a compromise appointment that they hope will keep us in the PL, it's imperative that we do, relegation and moving to BMD would be a disaster.

This isn't like Liverpool replacing Klopp where they had months and a stable environment to do so, it needed it done quickly as things had quite clearly turned sour behind the scenes, it's a safe appointment, not a lazy one. It's maybe not the Hollywood signing that some people wanted but it's a far more sensible option than the likes of fucking ten Hag and all the other names that people are throwing around, he's available, knows the club and despite what people may think, is a pretty good manager. It wouldn't be my choice long term and it's perhaps a bit boring but it's easy to see why they've done it and there's plenty of good reasons for it too.

It's typical though, people moaned about Moshiri, so we get rid of one of the worst owners in PL history and the usual posters are out sharpening the knives for the new owners already, people wanted rid of Dyche and they're moaning about his replacement too with out looking at the bigger situation. They've just bailed us out, made us effectively debt free and have huge issues to sort out on and off the field, changing manager wasn't one of them yet here we are with people already saying they've no plan etc. There really is no pleasing some of you.

I see this is aimed at me, and I get it. I was/am unsure on TFG. You can't argue with the financial assistant they have given us, it's literally life saving for us as a club, but you also need to judge them on decisions they make.
They're on their 4th manager in 18 months at Roma, all have been appointed really quick, is that success, or not, id say no.
I suppose my biggest gripe is that it isn't the transformational appointment I was hoping for, I get the whole pragmatism around the appointment, I honestly do, but it's also really unambitious, but maybe I'm wrong for wanting more?
Despite winning something at West ham they couldn't wait to get rid, it is telling. I just find it really lazy, that's all, id be amazed if Moyes was at a club we would go to any effort to negotiate his release, we simply wouldn't, and there's a reason why.
He'll get my backing as I want Everton to succeed, but it doesn't mean I have to like the appointment or agree with it, just cause others are saying it makes sense