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Paddockoldie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:44 am Moyes has come back and given me my hope back. What a night, what a place and how fucking great are our fans eh? Born not INbred... always blue, never red

Deano Blue Boy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:57 am Is anyone going to thank Charlie Adam for the brilliant set piece goal?

superpull wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:43 pm I don't really believe in the "Great Man of History" theory.

Doubly so for football managers. Clough at a different team. Or at the same team at a different time doesn't do what he does.

Moyes came in instead of Smith and he gets bounced out.

I think the "truly great" managers are at the right club at the right time. It's a coming together of lots of things. A footballing equivalent of a zeitgeist almost. (I'll listen to an argument that the money in the modern game has altered that concept somewhat).

For a while there I genuinely thought Martinez "letting the shackles off" and keeping the defensive discipline of his predecessor was a convergence that boded well.

James and a pattern of play that had DCL on fire similarly had me thinking Ancelotti may also be about to create a wave.

The Bournemouth cup game has made me check that early with Moyes - there's still a sense that in cup games or when it really, really matters for points/qualification to something that he will bottle it with his "just don't lose" mentality. But there's no doubt in my mind we will be in an astronomically better place after he leaves us than we were when he came in

Goaljira wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:48 pm Imagine how good that first season of Martinez II will be.

superpull wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:43 pm I don't really believe in the "Great Man of History" theory.

Doubly so for football managers. Clough at a different team. Or at the same team at a different time doesn't do what he does.

Moyes came in instead of Smith and he gets bounced out.

I think the "truly great" managers are at the right club at the right time. It's a coming together of lots of things. A footballing equivalent of a zeitgeist almost. (I'll listen to an argument that the money in the modern game has altered that concept somewhat).

For a while there I genuinely thought Martinez "letting the shackles off" and keeping the defensive discipline of his predecessor was a convergence that boded well.

James and a pattern of play that had DCL on fire similarly had me thinking Ancelotti may also be about to create a wave.

The Bournemouth cup game has made me check that early with Moyes - there's still a sense that in cup games or when it really, really matters for points/qualification to something that he will bottle it with his "just don't lose" mentality. But there's no doubt in my mind we will be in an astronomically better place after he leaves us than we were when he came in

MayorFarnham wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:06 pm I don't think we could ever claim the tag of big game specialists in the fifty odd years I've been watching us. We bottled pretty much everything before he turned up as well as in the ten years between him leaving and coming back.
You could even make a case the Kendall MK1 lost his share of pivotal games.