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Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:58 am
by brap2
We shouldn't abandon all hope if he doesn't start weds
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:05 pm
by Toddacelli
brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:58 am
We shouldn't abandon all hope if he doesn't start weds
You’re right.
We will though.
Just as we will if Patterson gets the starting position and has a few bad games as he gets up to speed. The lad’s a baller. Persistence with him will deffo pay off imo.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:17 pm
by 74Blue
I do think Moyes will be cautious with him, it's just the way Moyes is. However, the main difference is that he will actually communicate with the lad and not just completely freeze him out. If he needs a loan spell for his development, he'll get one. If he needs to start off the bench for a bit, that's what will happen. If Moyes feels he will develop better playing as a makeshift winger, then he'll do it. Got to be better for his confidence than getting splinters in his arse with very little chance of getting on the pitch.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:42 pm
by Juanito
I can’t see him doing a worse job than Harrison on the right wing.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:09 pm
by NickNack
Really think Moyes is probably the best thing that could happen for Patterson’s development. Hoping him and Baines between them can improve Myko as well - there’s a better player in there than what we’ve seen this season. Nowhere near Baines or Digne quality, but better than we’ve seen lately
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:01 pm
by AjaxAndy
I think it's been mentioned before by a few people that Moyes had no issue making us effective with an attacking LB and a very defensive RB. So really you'd hope both Patterson and Mykolenko can be utilised well under him for the rest of the season.
I just can't see him going with Young and Myko as full backs as it's very negative and although he will want to be pragmatic and keep us solid at the back he's under no illusion that we need to find ways to create and score chances, and how our previous manager's reliance on those 2 was a huge road block to that happening.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:32 pm
by Shogun
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:01 pm
I think it's been mentioned before by a few people that Moyes had no issue making us effective with an attacking LB and a very defensive RB. So really you'd hope both Patterson and Mykolenko can be utilised well under him for the rest of the season.
I just can't see him going with Young and Myko as full backs as it's very negative and although he will want to be pragmatic and keep us solid at the back he's under no illusion that we need to find ways to create and score chances, and how our previous manager's reliance on those 2 was a huge road block to that happening.
I guess we'll see with both of them how much of that negativity was down to instruction or ability.
Probably become a liability but I'm sure Young has it in him to get forward a lot more?
Wouldn't be surprised if Coleman just come back in until he gets injured again.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:08 pm
by MmmBlueBranthwaite
MmmBlueBranthwaite wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:34 pm
Got no worries with this lad. Moyes will play him every week.
Maybe not this week……… <coughs>
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:03 pm
by Granite
Must get fucking annihilated in training by the likes of Myko and Harrison, can be the only thing I can think of.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:05 pm
by Cereal Killer
Granite wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:03 pm
Must get fucking annihilated in training by the likes of Myko and Harrison, can be the only thing I can think of.
Or he gets specific instructions on what to do and where to go, and 2 minutes later he’s bombed off miles out of position
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:22 pm
by The Doc
He does make mistakes, its obvious that's the reason he's not been fancied by several managers. He's big, quick and creates chances, but clearly a liability defensively.
He's with the right manager now to make some improvements and progress, but he'd cost us a few goals if he played from the off right now.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:23 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
The Doc wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:22 pm
He does make mistakes, its obvious that's the reason he's not been fancied by several managers. He's big, quick and creates chances, but clearly a liability defensively.
He's with the right manager now to make some improvements and progress, but he'd cost us a few goals if he played from the off right now.
Coleman was the same when he first came into the team, which is why he both went out on loan and initially played on the wing a bit too (from what I remember).
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:04 pm
by AjaxAndy
Young was terrible today imo, think Dyche really protected him with the way we played and he was exposed today as still being crap.
I think Patterson and Lindstrom transforms that right side even if it means we probably concede more. We need wins so he'd be in if not for the next match certainly the cup one after and then hopefully he did enough to retain his place from there on.
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:15 pm
by Stumpy
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:04 pm
Young was terrible today imo, think Dyche really protected him with the way we played and he was exposed today as still being crap.
I think Patterson and Lindstrom transforms that right side even if it means we probably concede more. We need wins so he'd be in if not for the next match certainly the cup one after and then hopefully he did enough to retain his place from there on.
Yeah i just think it's time to try something different with patterson and lindstrom.
As you say it will probably weaken us defensively but we are not scoring and we are not keeping clean sheets so let's give it a go
Re: Patterson Future
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:20 am
by Cods
UnsyisaRhino wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:23 pm
Coleman was the same when he first came into the team, which is why he both went out on loan and initially played on the wing a bit too (from what I remember).
"16 grand grand, Nathan Patterson"