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Re: Dele

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:26 pm
by 74Blue
TheRam wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:24 pm Why would we release him on a free then sign him back?

Why wouldn’t we just simply renew the contract?
Well, since Spurs have shown little/no interest in seriously renegotiating the original deal, there is absolutely no obligation for us to be any less unscrupulous.

Getting around the table and negotiating a sensible compromise would have been best for all parties involved. Whilst players are seen by clubs as a commodity, they are also human beings, and Dele clearly has a lot of issues that he's working on right now. Coming to a sensible agreement would have allowed Spurs to recover some money, Everton to continue working with the player on his rehabilitation without the jeopardy of a sudden £10m bill and allowed Dele some hope of actually getting back on the pitch sometime soon. The current stalemate benefits nobody.

Re: Dele

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:56 pm
by Bluedylan1
I think we should release him in the summer, then sign him and then release him again under a mutual agreement. Just to confuse Spurs.

Re: Dele

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:30 pm
by AjaxAndy
In contract law there's 'acting in bad faith', which part of is 'evasion of the spirit of the agreement'.

I'd imagine if there is a clause that states X payment on contract renewal, and we instead waited of the contract to expire and then offered him a new one under the guise of it being a new signing, even if it got around the clause then we'd fall foul anyway by acting in bad faith.

That's of course presuming offering him a new contract after his existing one expired was classed as a new signing and not just a contract renewal.

Re: Dele

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:32 pm
by Gash
Can we just call it a draw?

Re: Dele

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:32 pm
by Gash
Can we just call it a draw?

Re: Dele

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:47 pm
by AjaxAndy
Gash wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:32 pm Can we just call it a draw?
Yeah I mean it's not actually important really is it? We're talking about a player who most likely won't ever play for us again, and certainly not in a meaningful way.

Got to love a redemption story though, and it feels a bit like circumstances are going to prevent any chance of that even if the actual likelihood anyway is extremely small.

Re: Dele

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:57 pm
by biziclop
superpull wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:57 pm As I said above, that's absolutely something we *could* do, but no club *would* do.

You'd be fucking yourself over for every player you ever tried to sign in the future with add-ons
The reason clubs wouldn't do it is that as a free agent the player can sign for anyone they want, so there's usually a huge risk associated with it.

Re: Dele

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:07 am
by Goaljira
Seeing Keane and Godfrey step in with no recent football and not miss a step has got me very intrigued for how the 5 games we can use him for will go.

Re: Dele

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:13 am
by Toddacelli
Goaljira wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:07 am Seeing Keane and Godfrey step in with no recent football and not miss a step has got me very intrigued for how the 5 games we can use him for will go.
Don’t know how fit he’ll be. Last update from Dyche was that he was ‘on the grass’.

Re: Dele

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:21 am
by Free Agent
Toddacelli wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:13 am Don’t know how fit he’ll be. Last update from Dyche was that he was ‘on the grass’.
Dyche’s “on the grass” is usually a 3-4 weeks away from a first XI start

Re: Dele

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:54 pm
by biziclop
Free Agent wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:21 am Dyche’s “on the grass” is usually a 3-4 weeks away from a first XI start
It's also what most of our previous managers would've called "full fitness".

Re: Dele

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:46 pm
by Cods
Surely forums are a mix of 80% speculation, 10% match thread reaction, and 10% banter?

It's not as if we're well-informed about anything that goes on, is it?

Re: Dele

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:54 pm
by Paddockoldie
I'd like to see a fit and mentally well Dele play for us. I think he really appreciates how he's been supported here

Re: Dele

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:38 pm
by Kerryblueboy
Whatever about this fella anyone reckon dyche can re energise Gomes

Re: Dele

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 am
by Paddockoldie
Kerryblueboy wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:38 pm Whatever about this fella anyone reckon dyche can re energise Gomes
Lazarus couldn't raise Gomes from a nap. Way too slow, doesn't push himself.. Dyche player he will never be.