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Think I want him gone

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:20 pm I don’t think anyone is basing their assessment of Beto on one game, and I also think everyone is aware that we did not play to his strengths.

What? We don't do kneejerk reactions around here?!

Seriously though, he had a terrible game. Next time he has a good game there will be people saying that he was amazing and we should stick with him. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:25 pm Think I want him gone

Form a queue brother.

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:06 pm The thing that helped him least by a significant margin was moyes not subbing him. His performance wouldn't be mentioned a 10th as much if moyes had just subbed him like he should. The vast majority of this is on the manager

Doesn't matter either way, he was absolutely fucking shit regardless of if he played 60 mins or 85.

To put the vast majority of blame for a player not even trying to compete on the manager seems like an odd angle to take.

brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:25 pm Think I want him gone

Thats next summers issue. No point in discussing it now.
Think McNeil will get the same fate.

AndSeel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:09 pm Thats next summers issue. No point in discussing it now.
Think McNeil will get the same fate.

If we can turn donkeys into gold I'm always happy to do it

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:08 pm Doesn't matter either way, he was absolutely fucking shit regardless of if he played 60 mins or 85.

To put the vast majority of blame for a player not even trying to compete on the manager seems like an odd angle to take.

If you can see it and I can see it and there's a like for like sub then it's absolutely mainly on the manager

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:14 pm If you can see it and I can see it and there's a like for like sub then it's absolutely mainly on the manager

No it's on the player to at least try and perform, the sub issue is completely separate.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:02 pm No it's on the player to at least try and perform, the sub issue is completely separate.

Oh I don't disagree with but there was a simple solution which moyes didn't take

In Beto’s defence , Mondays performance wasn’t typical of him so hopefully that was just a one off.

Just seemed to me that his head was down for whatever reason the other night, didn’t have the same fight that he would usually have

The lack of control and rough edges to his game maybe I would expect more, but Beto is usually all heart and fight so was odd to see that side of his game missing

Id take 50% less fight for 10% more touch if poss

brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:30 pm Id take 50% less fight for 10% more touch if poss

Words of a sex criminal right there.

Painful viewing on Monday. He looked levels below those Leeds centre halves marking him. Would love an Italian club to come in for him for 20 million.

brap[emoji638] wrote: If we can turn donkeys into gold I'm always happy to do it

It’s a shit market to try and replace a striker right now as a lot of clubs are also looking after losing their own (Brentford, Newcastle etc) and most have already moved

StirlingBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 6:04 am It’s a shit market to try and replace a striker right now as a lot of clubs are also looking after losing their own (Brentford, Newcastle etc) and most have already moved

You're also not getting a decent striker for the money we have to spend this late in the window