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Re: Dyche

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:58 pm
by AjaxAndy
Shogun wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:31 pm Worth noting that Onana plays quite a lot and has definitely been no worse than the Birkenhead Pirlo next him lately who has somehow got even worse.

It's not like Onana has been consistently brilliant at any point of his Everton career so far under either manager, whether that's down to us or him.

Bit much to be saying he's given up or being unprofessional imo.
I have no opinion on Onana's desire or lack of, but I definitely don't think it helps when you're relying on players who most likely or definitely won't be here next season... It's always going to impact on their fight even if it's subconscious.

Gomes
Branthwaite
Onana
Gana
Harrison
Danjuma

All either definitely or probably leaving in the summer, and Young too is potentially retiring, although seems the type to hang around like a bad smell for as long as we'd keep him.

It definitely doesn't help you as a team in hard times when half the team have a reason not to really fight in the way others in the team might.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:20 am
by Free Agent
Wish we could sneak Godfrey and Keane onto that list somehow

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:14 am
by 777Kidnappings
Shogun wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:31 pm Worth noting that Onana plays quite a lot and has definitely been no worse than the Birkenhead Pirlo next him lately who has somehow got even worse.

It's not like Onana has been consistently brilliant at any point of his Everton career so far under either manager, whether that's down to us or him.

Bit much to be saying he's given up or being unprofessional imo.
I can't be arsed finding it but.... you said it too.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:21 am
by TheRam
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... eague.html

Good article, very honest assessment from the manager.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:13 am
by blueforyou
Yes - the realisation has set in: pig of a job

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:22 am
by Silas
TheRam wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:21 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... eague.html

Good article, very honest assessment from the manager.
I'm not enjoying the football but he's no idiot. Saying exactly what we've seen since Ancelotti left. Interesting comments about Moshiri as well. Seeing nothing right now that says he should stay as our manager but there's never been a manager dealt a worse hand at Everton

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:20 pm
by The Doc
Communication by messages and phone calls when he can be arsed from the boss is God awful leadership. What an utter clown of an owner.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:36 am
by Trowel

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:50 pm
by Gash
Needs to keep the tracky on.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:52 pm
by 777Kidnappings
What a manager

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:54 pm
by AjaxAndy
Decent set up today, people said he doesn't have any plans B but thought the first half with Gomes and Doucoure in support of DCL and then dropping in to a flat 5 across the middle when we lost possession was good.

Clearly second half was edgy and lacked any real attacking intent which would have back fired, but it thankfully didn't.

Massive 3 points and a good bounce back from Chelsea, and clearly changed things today in both personnel and shape off the back of that performance.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:58 pm
by Gash
Still don't think he's lost the players. Maybe them all sitting down and telling some home truths after the Chelsea game has done some good.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:59 pm
by Shogun
I did think we played much better than against Burnley but it's still a tough one to judge. Ashley Young could have given away three penalties and Gana scored from 25 shots with a daisy cutter.

Everything went our way today, though I guess you make your own luck as the cliché goes.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:24 pm
by Cantoffee
Definitely some good fortune about the result. I did think we were the better team though.

He did seem to try to change things in attack a bit with Gomes drifting out wide and McNeil coming more central at times. Not sure what the purpose was but it seemed to help.

Still a big lack of patterns of play in attack and got lucky with Young somehow escaping those penalty shouts.

Will take it out and agree that I don't think he's lost the players. Will be interesting to see if Onana plays again.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:41 pm
by blueforyou
If you can't play pretty, win ugly