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Gash wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 6:24 pm Doesn't AI use huge energy and inpact the environment?

I was not aware of this.

Gash wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 6:24 pm Doesn't AI use huge energy and impact the environment?

I wasn't sure........... so I decided to ask AI.

Results.

AI does indeed use a significant amount of energy and has a notable impact on the environment. The rapid expansion of AI technologies, particularly generative AI, has led to increased demands on data centers, which are essential for training and deploying these models.

One major concern is the electricity consumption of data centers. In 2023, data centers consumed approximately 4.4% of U.S. electricity, a figure that could triple by 2028 due to the growing demands of AI applications[1]. Globally, the electricity consumption of data centers rose to 460 terawatts in 2022 and is projected to reach around 1,000 terawatts by 2026[2][3]. This increase positions data centers among the largest consumers of electricity worldwide, comparable to entire countries like Japan[2].

The environmental impact extends beyond just energy consumption. Data centers require substantial amounts of water for cooling purposes; estimates suggest that they may consume six times more water than Denmark by 2027[4]. This high demand for water can strain local resources, especially in areas already facing water scarcity[5]. Additionally, the production and operation of AI hardware contribute to electronic waste and greenhouse gas emissions due to reliance on fossil fuels for electricity generation[6].

Moreover, training large AI models involves extensive computational resources. For instance, training OpenAI's GPT-3 was estimated to consume about 1,287 megawatt hours of electricity—enough to power approximately 120 average U.S. homes for a year—and generate around 552 tons of carbon dioxide[7]. Each query made through an AI model like ChatGPT can consume significantly more energy than a traditional web search; it has been reported that one query can use about ten times the electricity compared to a simple search[8].

In summary, AI uses huge amounts of energy and significantly impacts the environment through high electricity consumption, substantial water usage for cooling data centers, and contributions to electronic waste and greenhouse gas emissions.

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 6:04 pmEh?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nvironment

Wrong thread!

Audrey Horne wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 8:19 pm https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nvironment

Yikes! I didn’t realise.

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 9:54 pm Yikes! I didn’t realise.

I was only pulling your leg mate

But it is crazy isn't it

MayorFarnham wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 6:41 am We need to get the bulk of our transfer business done before the season kicks off. Playing the first month while still scrambling around for players is never good and next season it may make settling in at the new stadium more difficult.
Starting well at the Hill Dickinson could make a massive difference.

Completely agree, but I think it's more around how the market itself works.

Except for the clubs with money there's so much posturing and brinksmanship, then it goes bang and we're on.

Would love to see it happen early, but it hasn't for usand many others in a very long time.

Cozzie wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 7:48 pm I wasn't sure........... so I decided to ask AI.

Results.

AI does indeed use a significant amount of energy and has a notable impact on the environment. The rapid expansion of AI technologies, particularly generative AI, has led to increased demands on data centers, which are essential for training and deploying these models.

One major concern is the electricity consumption of data centers. In 2023, data centers consumed approximately 4.4% of U.S. electricity, a figure that could triple by 2028 due to the growing demands of AI applications[1]. Globally, the electricity consumption of data centers rose to 460 terawatts in 2022 and is projected to reach around 1,000 terawatts by 2026[2][3]. This increase positions data centers among the largest consumers of electricity worldwide, comparable to entire countries like Japan[2].

The environmental impact extends beyond just energy consumption. Data centers require substantial amounts of water for cooling purposes; estimates suggest that they may consume six times more water than Denmark by 2027[4]. This high demand for water can strain local resources, especially in areas already facing water scarcity[5]. Additionally, the production and operation of AI hardware contribute to electronic waste and greenhouse gas emissions due to reliance on fossil fuels for electricity generation[6].

Moreover, training large AI models involves extensive computational resources. For instance, training OpenAI's GPT-3 was estimated to consume about 1,287 megawatt hours of electricity—enough to power approximately 120 average U.S. homes for a year—and generate around 552 tons of carbon dioxide[7]. Each query made through an AI model like ChatGPT can consume significantly more energy than a traditional web search; it has been reported that one query can use about ten times the electricity compared to a simple search[8].

In summary, AI uses huge amounts of energy and significantly impacts the environment through high electricity consumption, substantial water usage for cooling data centers, and contributions to electronic waste and greenhouse gas emissions.

A simple YES would have worked!

ToffeeparkUS wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 11:22 pm A simple YES would have worked!

But how would they create the illusion of being smart then.

Can't fault him.

Not just the points he won.

He's removed us so far from the gas lighting bile Dyche was churning out that this squad had reached it's limits and couldn't play any better.

Finished on the same points as last season (defacto 48)

19 games is a good barometer to judge, basically half a season. On for a 60 point season.

One or two quality additions next season and there isn't any reason to believe we can't mount a European push.

I was sceptical about the re-hiring of Moyes and felt it wasn't forward thinking but what an achievement.

Same squad as Dyche´s but suddenly they could compete against all the best teams. Suddenly the could keep possession, suddenly they could drible, pass and shoot. The mental and tactical side of football is just massive isn't it...

What a job he has done!

There's obviously a lot to be done over the summer and no guarantees for next season but getting to 48 points from what he inherited (17) seemed the absolute top end of what was possible.

Deserves a massive amount of credit.

CannockPricey wrote: ↑Sun May 25, 2025 5:30 pm There's obviously a lot to be done over the summer and no guarantees for next season but getting to 48 points from what he inherited (17) seemed the absolute top end of what was possible.

Deserves a massive amount of credit.

In an alternate reality there would be some in the media championing Dyche for keeping us up at the death, with the very same set of players. I was on board with him returning, but I couldn't have predicted this outcome.

Couldn't have asked for more. No one else could have done any better than he has with these players in those 19 games[We'll ignore the cup game].

As things stand, we've gone toe to toe with everyone we've faced and seen there's nothing to fear from any of them. Granted things can change massively with the money the top teams will again spend, but it's just been nice to st least have this time where watching Everton isn't stress inducing, let alone having to worry about 5 other games every weekend.

Dyche 19 games 17 points

"Nobody can do better"

Moyes 19 games 31 points