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Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:12 pm
by AjaxAndy
What kind of name is Kiernan btw? I always thought he was called Kieran.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:13 pm
by PoD1878
TheRam wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:09 pm Solid enough signing who will be a massive improvement on what we already have.

Does feel like we’ve moved down our shortlist though and are looking to get done what we can get done.

Will be disappointed if we give Chelsea close to their money back on him.
What did they pay for him?

Solid player, will be fine. Not got pace though, could do with that in the middle too.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:15 pm
by Cereal Killer
PoD1878 wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:13 pm What did they pay for him?

Solid player, will be fine. Not got pace though, could do with that in the middle too.
£30m

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:21 pm
by Shogun
£20m would be reasonable for us imo.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:24 pm
by blueToffee
My feelings on this one are fairly price dependent. For around 20 mil I'd be happy with it, for 30 much less so.

They had quoted West Ham 30 earlier, so I'm a bit wary they'll want to try and get their money back or close to it. Seeing how much they've got for some of their ex-players, they don't often give out bargains.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:24 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Shogun wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:21 pm £20m would be reasonable for us imo.
That's where I'm at. 20m and he's a good signing. There have been reports they want a profit though which would be ridiculous

All about the price

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:28 pm
by Shogun
Still a good signing if he's £30m imo because he is a sure thing and you know the player you're go to get, but it should be around £20m. The market is currently mad though.

James Ward-Prowse cost West Ham £30m a couple of years ago and they're probably similar level players (except where JWP can take free-kicks, KDH has the ability to run)

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:31 pm
by Cantoffee
£30m would be insane.

Is he more than an average CM? I dont think he is.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:42 pm
by superpull
Cantoffee wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:31 pm £30m would be insane.

Is he more than an average CM? I dont think he is.
I suspect £30m is the price of an average premier league midfielder though, to be fair.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:42 pm
by bigmanbob
He's got future Everton boo boy written all over him

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:48 pm
by brap2
Don't buy it. Looks to be behind the striker whenever he actually has the ball. Cant imagine he'll be in the double pivot for us?

So average attacking numbers Vs midfielders for a player who plays essentially as a forward.

I'm not having him at all, champo player.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:50 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
brap2 wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:48 pm Don't buy it. Looks to be behind the striker whenever he actually has the ball. Cant imagine he'll be in the double pivot for us?

So average attacking numbers Vs midfielders for a player who plays essentially as a forward.

I'm not having him at all, champo player.
I do worry he might be a bit of a more attacking version of garner. I do think he's better, and probably a more rounded midfielder than anyone we have, but we need more than that.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:59 pm
by kramer
I think he’s going to surprise some of the skeptics. He plays quickly, he moves the ball forward effectively, he can run with the ball, and he’s fairly combative for someone whose main virtue is ball progression.

Don’t like the price if we’re anywhere near giving Chelsea money back but I do like the player.

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:00 pm
by Free Agent
If he comes in, then I think Charli drops to the bench (or worse)

Re: Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:00 pm
by superpull
brap2 wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:48 pm Don't buy it. Looks to be behind the striker whenever he actually has the ball. Cant imagine he'll be in the double pivot for us?

So average attacking numbers Vs midfielders for a player who plays essentially as a forward.

I'm not having him at all, champo player.

We ned a klaxon here.

Has somebody just presented a data analysis infographic and you've dismissed it due to vibes and "the eye-test"?