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You know it's a bad decision when this fella can't even back it

I dont hold a strong opinion either way but I do wonder how it might have gone down during the great metatarsal era of the early-to-mid 2000s.

I think maybe 'unluckily(?)' for the Arsenal player, he actually stamps the Wolves player's foot with studs and weight, twists his ankle, whilst he was in full flight. Quite dangerous and definitely reckless. Not too dissimilar to Allan's red.

Arsenal fans being Arsenal fans must be crying blue murder, despite it being a fringe player sent off in a game they actually won.

It's just not a red card. No way on this earth is it a red. Awful decision but worse that the var wasn't used!

If they were referencing an achilles rake with studs as being a red I just dont see how that differs from studs in forefoot.

It shouldn't matter where the contact was, given it was the same height from the ground, it's still dangerous.

The problem is it just looked similar to others that haven't been deemed as serious. Trips with minimal contact, versus this one where he fully gets the top of his foot with studs. It wasn't accidental or mistimed either. The only argument for me is if it wasn't deemed excessive force. Fully weighted lunge onto the forefoot, I'm saying yeah but i understand if some might disagree . I don't think this is near to some of the poor decisions we've seen with VAR.

Mate, it's a nailed-on yellow, there was nothing in it, all this rake bollocks is just trying to whitewash a terrible decision backed by a disfunctional VAR.

And they've overturned it.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/fa-stateme ... y-red-card

Shogun wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:35 pm And they've overturned it.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/fa-stateme ... y-red-card

That was quick.

Around offsides in particular.

I'd love a bit of indepth analysis around how long a football remains in contact against a foot, the distance a forward can travel in that time when moving in the opposite direction to the defender and the frame rate of modern technology to show the precise moment a ball has left the foot. Finally the ability of a VAR official to acurately hold the action at that exact moment for the offside measurement to take place, with any degree of error in those lines that they use.

Seriously, I'm surprised there hasn't been a study into the accuracy of those millimeter decisions.

Considering they place the lines themselves based on camera angles that aren't in line with the last defender then I'm guessing they don't want a study to happen.

Matt1878 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:20 pm Around offsides in particular.

I'd love a bit of indepth analysis around how long a football remains in contact against a foot, the distance a forward can travel in that time when moving in the opposite direction to the defender and the frame rate of modern technology to show the precise moment a ball has left the foot. Finally the ability of a VAR official to acurately hold the action at that exact moment for the offside measurement to take place, with any degree of error in those lines that they use.

Seriously, I'm surprised there hasn't been a study into the accuracy of those millimeter decisions.

Also how much a player can move in that amount of time. In swimming they used to measure time in thousandths of seconds but dropped back to hundredths simply because they realised a difference of one or two 1/1000ths was meaningless.

PL has it's next referee all lined up.

The corner one is mad

13 VAR mistakes in Premier League so far this season

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... 9qvdg57n0o

One for us (Noorgard red card - Brentford 0-0 Everton, 23 November ) was apparently one of most egregious errors? Which I didn't know they backtracked on already...but I mean wasn't it a red?

Outside of that, can't say I'm buying only 13 mistakes? Seems like there has been a lot this season and they don't seem to be counting stuff that they didn't interfere with. Maybe that is why of late it's felt like VAR has swung into the ref on the pitch is always right if at all possible mode and not intervening in some more obvious mistakes...so that it's less things they could potentially get wrong?

Well the Beto one at the weekend for a start

Yeah it's only counted actual VAR interventions which is a joke in it's self, it's only down because they are sticking with the on pitch desicion. Which we have witnessed every week they get desicions wrong.