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MmmBlueBranthwaite wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:21 pm The big question for me is if we stay up, get some stability and some money to improve the squad. Does elite dyche ball exist or does he attempt to play 'better football' with a better group of players?

Think we would absolutely owe it to him to allow him the chance to develop with us if we got to that stage.

MmmBlueBranthwaite wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:21 pm The big question for me is if we stay up, get some stability and some money to improve the squad. Does elite dyche ball exist or does he attempt to play 'better football' with a better group of players?

Maybe it's with the perspective of the previous couple of managers, but I don't actually think we're playing that badly/ugly.

It doesn't feel too dissimilar to what we'd see under Moyes in the times when we were a bit bare bones (such as those periods where we were playing Fellani up top). We miss the Baines/Pienaar sort of quality, but that is more on recruitment.

blueToffee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:14 pm Maybe it's with the perspective of the previous couple of managers, but I don't actually think we're playing that badly/ugly.

It doesn't feel too dissimilar to what we'd see under Moyes in the times when we were a bit bare bones (such as those periods where we were playing Fellani up top). We miss the Baines/Pienaar sort of quality, but that is more on recruitment.

Agreed, it's more direct than some would like but I feel like the times it doesn't work is more down to quality than style.

We're often not brave enough in transition or lack the quality to play the right ball, something which seems to happen more often in the final third unfortunately.

If we had a right back who could get up and down and cross the ball, and one more player in the middle with a more incisive range of passing then I honestly think we'd be on to something. Oh and Dom would have to be fit every week.

Unconscious bias. Dyche is a wizzard.

I’ve done a 180 on him and gone from not wanting him at all to being fine or whatever. Fit for purpose is what I’d probs land on.

He’s a professional and stops us from being an embarrassment in every single match we play in. He gets some right, he gets some wrong.

Bob Sacamano wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:34 pm I’ve done a 180 on him and gone from not wanting him at all to being fine or whatever. Fit for purpose is what I’d probs land on.

He’s a professional and stops us from being an embarrassment in every single match we play in. He gets some right, he gets some wrong.

Ping ball wizard.

Emphasis on the pinging from Tarko.

Getting 95% out of this team.

Deserves to spend some money and bring some more of his own players in.

Can't really have too many complaints about him so far can we?

Ok, the Ashley Young thing is a bit curious and the home form is a work in progress albeit some reasonable excuses in terms of the wayward finishing, but it's night and day to our last couple of appointments.

At the very least, we look like a team. It's been a while.

We'd be 10th without the points deduction... 10th!!!

That'd also be including the first 4 games where we didn't bother to buy anyone and had Dobbin and Maupay starting.

Massive credit to the manager, deserves lots of plaudits for turning this team around and making us a team that wouldn't be anywhere near relegation without the deduction, and probably nowhere near it with.

Obviously going well, although I do think he's got a decent starting XI there anyway.

Would really like him to integrate more players into the team but maybe that'll come with time.

Nice to have a competent manager again after Benitez and Lampard.

I'm well and truly on the Dyche train. He's been exactly what we've needed since he's come in and when he talks you can't help but listen and believe what he's saying, I assume it's the same for the players.

Yeah, he's done amazingly to keep the spirit so high after the deduction and the Man U result. I was worried we might spiral, and feel sorry for ourselves for a bit.

As we've said before, not the man we wanted, but turning out to be the man we needed.

Shogun wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:17 pm Obviously going well, although I do think he's got a decent starting XI there anyway.

Would really like him to integrate more players into the team but maybe that'll come with time.

Nice to have a competent manager again after Benitez and Lampard.

Yeah, I would agree that part of it is we do have a more balanced squad now than we'd previously done in recent years. All the incomings this summer have helped with that, plus having Branthwaite step up too. I don't know how much credit Dyche gets for that vs the DoF though, perhaps a little for both.

Bluedylan1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:18 pm Yeah, he's done amazingly to keep the spirit so high after the deduction and the Man U result. I was worried we might spiral, and feel sorry for ourselves for a bit.

As we've said before, not the man we wanted, but turning out to be the man we needed.

Yeah I think under previous managers we would have have ended in a tail spin, I dread to think what would have happened under them... Dyche seems to have instilled a belief to just keep doing what we're doing and not to deviat at all.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if he's doing something like showing them a table without the deduction added to hammer home just how good our points haul actually is.

The one thing I like is that we look really fit