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Yeah. Give moyes the next two years to lay the foundations, but we have to progress as a club.

As I said, unless he genuinely wins something or has us certified in the CL we need to look at the next step after Moyes.

TheRam wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:23 am Had our best ever premier league season after moyes left.

With an attacking threat added to the rock solid spine that Moyes built. Martinez then decided to fuck about with it and he'd have definitely taken us down to the Chamionship if left in place any longer than he was. Martinez teams play lovely tiki-taka, but he couldn't scout a decent defender to save his fucking life.

72 points we had that first Martinez season. Which was, and still is a record points total to not get top 4.

Robioto wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:19 am 72 points we had that first Martinez season. Which was, and still is a record points total to not get top 4.

That team probably would have won the league last season, not even joking.

Moyes left us in a fantastic position, and with our best team in the modern area. All those years of building on a shoestring were wasted within a couple of years. If we'd made the right appointment after Moyes, we could've cemented ourselves around the Top 6.

Let's see where we are in 18 months, and worry about it then. If we're wanting Moyes to stay on in 18 months, that means he's doing an excellent job and if we're wanting to get someone else, chances are we'll still be in a very solid position to move forward.

In the 23 games played last season after he was appointed, I'm not sure any other manager could've got 10 wins, 8 draws and 5 defeats with that desperately bad squad. It was remarkable.

Robioto wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:19 am 72 points we had that first Martinez season. Which was, and still is a record points total to not get top 4.

Was a strange season that.

Arsenal got 4th with 80 points so 79 or even 80 with an inferior goal difference still wouldn't have gotten 4th.

Stranger that when we did finish 4th we only needed and got 61.

TheRam wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:42 am In terms of points total and general level of play it was our best season.

That sounds a bit like the shite when the wanted a premier league trophy for being the best ever 2nd placed team

Arsenal were very lucky that season, won last 5 games after we beat them 3 -0. One of the best games , played Rom in the right and had a blinder. Arsenal finished with 79pts. And fluked the cup final against Hull.

The fucking Palace game , obviously possibly had to beat City too , giving them the league . 2-0 defeat to Southampton was typical..

Would have beat Palace if it had stayed on the original date

Fuck. The. Wind.

Baines and Coleman lmao.

Sad thing is it will definitely happen and of course go badly.

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 1:16 pm That sounds a bit like the shite when the wanted a premier league trophy for being the best ever 2nd placed team

It doesn’t.

That was our best season. It was our best team, we played the best football and we got the most points.

If we won the league with 80 points playing decent but not amazing football and we had another season where we scored 90 points consistently played beautiful football but finished second, which one would be the better season?

dazfrancis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:48 pm If we won the league with 80 points playing decent but not amazing football and we had another season where we scored 90 points consistently played beautiful football but finished second, which one would be the better season?

To quote the great philosopher Dominic Toretto:

dazfrancis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:48 pm If we won the league with 80 points playing decent but not amazing football and we had another season where we scored 90 points consistently played beautiful football but finished second, which one would be the better season?

Title all day every day.

In 100 years time, no one will care how you played. But the record will be there forever. Like Leicester city winning the PL or Greece winning the Euros.

Who will remember Arsenal in seasons gone by playing nice football but coming 2nd and winning nothing?

Some of you need to realise best, successful and memorable all mean different things.

The season we won the most games was the season we were better than the season we won less games.

Doesn't mean we were more successful or memorable.