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Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:48 am
by AjaxAndy
dazfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:46 am
Can see Moyes part 2 petering out with a whimper based on the last 2 results.
Still making the same mistakes as 10-15 years ago
Probably a bit knee jerk given what he did last season, and the fact we were the better team against Liverpool for 60 mins.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:36 pm
by dazfrancis
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 11:48 am
Probably a bit knee jerk given what he did last season, and the fact we were the better team against Liverpool for 60 mins.
I'm not saying we should sack him lol.
But following that great start it looks like we've reverted to Moyes mk1
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:04 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Risky wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 7:02 am
People complained about the Gueye coming off because taking him off and replacing him with Iroegbunam when trying to close out a game is a questionable substituion.
We're not in any danger of flogging players to death at the moment, that's just complete hyperbole. We do have some options and changes we can make and we're not in a terrible position squad-wise, but the issue with last night was with going too far with the number of changes and ending up with a disjointed team on the pitch.
So when does gueye get a rest if we can't even be confident of closing out a game against wolves leading 3 1??
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:10 pm
by Risky
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:04 pm
So when does gueye get a rest if we can't even be confident of closing out a game against wolves leading 3 1??
When we're in position to put Garner or Rohl or even a 3rd CB, not when it's like for like with Iroegbunam. Or when we're halfway through the season and he genuinely needs a rest and genuinely couldn't manage those last 15.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:13 pm
by Silas
When we are 3 nil up you take off your vital players. Unless they look knackered. Gueye hasn't shown any sign of fatigue
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:31 pm
by brap2
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:04 pm
So when does gueye get a rest if we can't even be confident of closing out a game against wolves leading 3 1??
He can't, because the squad building is so poor.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:32 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
dazfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:36 pm
I'm not saying we should sack him lol.
But following that great start it looks like we've reverted to Moyes mk1
Which would still be a massive step up from where we've been for the last 5+ years to be fair.
It's probably the medicine we need to get the playing side of the club back on track.
We're one Keane meltdown, injury to gueye, pickford, grealish or ndaiye away from all of the positives we've seen this season resetting back to last seasons survival mode.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:36 pm
by 777Kidnappings
brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:31 pm
He can't, because the squad building is so poor.
Yeah that's my point too. Wholesale changes in the cup is purely because it's never going to be safe to rest our players.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:51 pm
by Cantoffee
I do wonder when he'll realise that Iroegbunam is not fit for purpose and should never see the pitch.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:54 pm
by sam of the south
Cantoffee wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:51 pm
I do wonder when he'll realise that Iroegbunam is not fit for purpose and should never see the pitch.
It’s kinda mystifying isn’t it.
Iroegbunam’s got a toolbox (quick, can pass, dribble, even tackle) so maybe Moyes thinks he can help him knit it altogether and he’ll be a good player, but I just can’t see it myself.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 3:17 pm
by 4evablu
7 games in and we've only won 3 and one of them was mansfield....drew one....lost 3....
so 2 league wins and a draw.....
2 league defeats....
1 cup defeat.....
no need for knee jerk just yet i think....however he needs to get the points in the bag before january and afcon based on last nights showing...
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 3:36 pm
by kramer
sam of the south wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 1:54 pm
It’s kinda mystifying isn’t it.
Iroegbunam’s got a toolbox (quick, can pass, dribble, even tackle) so maybe Moyes thinks he can help him knit it altogether and he’ll be a good player, but I just can’t see it myself.
Yep.
Bizarre levels of responsibility given to him this year for a manager who is notoriously risk averse.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:01 pm
by Bumble
Not sure why we didn't go again with the same team that did well against Liverpool. It's only September, the season is a month old. Not like we need to rotate to negotiate a packed fixture list, or fatigue is creeping in, or we have some proper squad players champing at the bit. If anything another game will get the first team lads fitter and sharper and more likely to get better playing together.
Just a really bad night for Moyes that. Really disappointing.
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 7:27 pm
by Shogun
Champions League Newcastle tonight at home against Bradford on the back of:
Sat 13th Wolves
Thurs 18th Barcelona
Sun 21st Bournemouth
This weekend Arsenal
Ramsdale; Kraft, Thiaw, Botman, Hall; Guimaraes, Miley, Joelinton; Elanga, Osula, Gordon
Bet the Newcastle fans are fuming he's risking some key injuries there!
Re: David Moyes
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 7:30 pm
by Stumpy
Bumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:01 pm
Not sure why we didn't go again with the same team that did well against Liverpool. It's only September, the season is a month old. Not like we need to rotate to negotiate a packed fixture list, or fatigue is creeping in, or we have some proper squad players champing at the bit. If anything another game will get the first team lads fitter and sharper and more likely to get better playing together.
Just a really bad night for Moyes that. Really disappointing.
There's no excuse for what he did last night.
The amount of changes was ludicrous, with a central midfield of garner and iroeghbunham(who's utter shite) there was only one way it was going to end for us, the same as is always does out of a cup with a whimper.
Honestly, i can't get my head around his way of thinking.
And i'm still fuming over it