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Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:27 pm
by Gash
Bit hypocritical if Leicester try anything, they paid a £3m fine in 2018 after losing £20m rather than the permitted £8m in the Championship and got promoted to the PL off the back of it.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:30 pm
by Cozzie
blueToffee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:24 pm
Cozzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:19 pm
If we appeal, which it seems like we are what are the time scales we will be looking at?
I don't think that's clear yet, but given the immediate application it'd surely have to be within this season.
I guess it would have to be this season yes as it wouldn't effect anything next season.
Still majorly harsh this.
It will be an eternity until Chelsea or City get punished, if they even do.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:31 pm
by Phillyt
Escla wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:14 pm
Won’t we still have the threat of Shef Utd., Burnley and Leicester suing us for countless millions ?
Only Burnley have even a semblance of a case. Leeds and leicester got relegated outside of this assessment period. And even if they weren’t only leicester wouldn’t have got relegated so Leeds have no basis for compensation from anyone.
Burnley are almost nailed on to get relegated as it stands, will they really want to be wasting valuable funds chasing a 50/50 case.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:31 pm
by blueToffee
Escla wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:14 pm
Won’t we still have the threat of Shef Utd., Burnley and Leicester suing us for countless millions ?
Don't Leicester have their own issues? So they sue us and then what we sue them?
Really where do you stop though? Do Man City get a deduction, lose all their trophies...all the other also rans get to sue for loss of earnings? Loss of place in the CL? Do we sue Chelsea for beating us in the FA Cup when they were spending too much?
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:34 pm
by Polledreng
4evablu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:44 pm
Although I’d love us to appeal and wipe the floor with these bent so and so’s
I think they’ve set a precedent for themselves and have opened a can of worms they’ll regret opening. I don’t think we should appeal only because Once they try to take on the wealth of city and chelsea they’re gonna regret even introducing ffp or whatever they want to call it as if their “punishment” doesn’t reflect the crime it opens a case for efc to sue them for all sorts of legal breaches.
The last can of worms they opened was closed again very quickly after Omar was suspended....F... The PL
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:35 pm
by howard1334
Escla wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:14 pm
Won’t we still have the threat of Shef Utd., Burnley and Leicester suing us for countless millions ?
I am civil litigator (albeit in the USA), and I have doubts over the validity of these claims. I’d wait until you see a rigorous analysis from a legitimate barrister/solicitor before getting too concerned about lawsuits.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:36 pm
by Robioto
Might be too soon for some, but thos is absolutely hilarious:
https://twitter.com/not_motd/status/1725541930438676890
EDIT: How the frig do you embed tweets now?
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:37 pm
by Escalator
blueToffee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:31 pm
Escla wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:14 pm
Won’t we still have the threat of Shef Utd., Burnley and Leicester suing us for countless millions ?
Don't Leicester have their own issues? So they sue us and then what we sue them?
Really where do you stop though? Do Man City get a deduction, lose all their trophies...all the other also rans get to sue for loss of earnings? Loss of place in the CL? Do we sue Chelsea for beating us in the FA Cup when they were spending too much?
You’re right, our neighbours would immediately claim to have won the Prem when City did etc. …thing is, nailed on, neither City nor Chelsea will be found guilty of anything.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:37 pm
by chang
Escla wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:14 pm
Won’t we still have the threat of Shef Utd., Burnley and Leicester suing us for countless millions ?
Reporter on BBC 6 o'clock news said clubs have 28 days to submit any "claim" to the panel.
I kind of get why they would, but isn't their beef with the PL ?
Given the complexities of these things and the right to appeal, for a club to be charged and found guilty within same season doesn’t seem a realistic timeframe.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:37 pm
by NickNack
Think it was Simon Jordan who said something along the lines of other clubs were unlikely to be able to sue us as they agree to abide by PL rules, so if the PL decide to punish us that’s it - or at worst they sue the PL for not doing their jobs properly
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:51 pm
by 777Kidnappings
I'm certainly not a lawyer but really don't think them suing makes any real sense. It's not our fault it wasn't delt with quicker. We get whatever punishment we were due.
Burnley have the best claim given that relegation was in the right period but they benefit this season from the points deduction we didn't get then. They might stay up instead of us this season because of it
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:57 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Feel proper stressed about all this now. Same level of constant worry as I've had these last few years of being awful
Also I think we also have to remember the inept bunch of cunts who led us here. That spend, ffp problems and while almost relegating us
Hope moshiri loses 100s and 100s of millions on this. Hope kenwright gets the legacy he deserves rather than a fucking stand named after him. Hope sharp is never welcomed back for tying to legitimase these cunts. Oh and I hope someone pops baxendales head clean off with a firm headlock. Inept bunch of absolute self serving cunts
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:00 pm
by Shropshire Blue
Trying to be objective here - where is the actual evidence, rather than opinion, that we are being treated unfairly?
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:07 pm
by Escalator
Shropshire Blue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:00 pm
Trying to be objective here - where is the actual evidence, rather than opinion, that we are being treated unfairly?
One might suggest that Portsmouth who drove the club into administration only got a 9point deduction.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:09 pm
by Escalator
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:57 pm
Feel proper stressed about all this now. Same level of constant worry as I've had these last few years of being awful
Also I think we also have to remember the inept bunch of cunts who led us here. That spend, ffp problems and while almost relegating us
Hope moshiri loses 100s and 100s of millions on this. Hope kenwright gets the legacy he deserves rather than a fucking stand named after him. Hope sharp is never welcomed back for tying to legitimase these cunts. Oh and I hope someone pops baxendales head clean off with a firm headlock. Inept bunch of absolute self serving cunts
Was maybe with you up to the point that you suggest that Baxendales head be snapped clean off in a headlock, really ?