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If JOB had had a bad game yesterday, people would have said Dyche fed him to the wolves. All depends on how you see it.

And if you’re mental

In no way should he play Dixon against Spurs. The lad has never played senior football. Now that would be feeding the lad to the wolves.

Dyche deserves a massive amount of credit for Branthwaites progress. Instead people are complaining he didn't start a couple or weeks earlier about a year ago

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:33 pm Dyche deserves a massive amount of credit for Branthwaites progress. Instead people are complaining he didn't start a couple or weeks earlier about a year ago

People are complaining he's made the same mistake with O'Brien as he did with Branthwaite because of his loyalty to Michael Keane.

Can you accuse him of being loyal to Micheal Keane considering how little he played last season?

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:33 pm Dyche deserves a massive amount of credit for Branthwaites progress. Instead people are complaining he didn't start a couple or weeks earlier about a year ago

You are spinning stuff yourself to suit your narrative according to you it’s all down to dyche that Jared is so good but he only put him in because Keane had a major fuck up against villa no point in playing this love dyche hate dyche stuff

TheRam wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:50 pm Can you accuse him of being loyal to Micheal Keane considering how little he played last season?

I said he's loyal to Keane, not absolutely insane about him! He's brought Keane into the side twice until Keane's performances forced him to bring in Mina when Dyche first arrived and then later Branthwaite after he tried again. It's pretty obvious to anyone that Keane isn't cut out for starting at this club and the last 5 years have proven that. He's brought in a £20m CB and decided to go with Keane again even though he shouldn't have a future at this club anymore. If it's not loyalty then it must be stubbornness that he's going to get a tune out of him despite all the evidence contrary.

In fairness... All managers have blindspots to certain players. It's not only a Dyche thing.

Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:58 pm The exact same could have been said about Jared this time last season and it took Keane having a stinker at villa for dyche to play him consistently we can’t be playing Seamus or young for the rest of the season they will be destroyed by any team with pace

That’s precisely why I want us to sign a right back as our current options are poor and/or injury prone. Branthwaite made mistakes, had a successful loan, then got his chance and proved he was 1st choice. Patterson has made mistakes and got injured. Nate will get another chance at some point when he’s fit and it’s up to him to take it, but I have doubts he will so I want a permanent long term option brought in.

Shogun wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:49 pm People are complaining he's made the same mistake with O'Brien as he did with Branthwaite because of his loyalty to Michael Keane.

Let's hope this 1 turns out the same way then.

Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:51 pm You are spinning stuff yourself to suit your narrative according to you it’s all down to dyche that Jared is so good but he only put him in because Keane had a major fuck up against villa no point in playing this love dyche hate dyche stuff

This fuck up is a year old. Right at the beginning of what ended up being a successful season (relatively) and I'm spinning stuff?

I'm not sure the financial situation is taken into account as much as it should in regard to manager performance.

We're DEAD LAST in the league spend table, 20th in net player spend. Over the last 4 seasons weve made €100m PROFIT, whilst the 4 biggest spenders have averaged over half a billion in net trading LOSSES.

Our net spend over this period is around €300m less than the league average. That means each season we're spending €75m less, or the equivalent of TWO FEWER Amadou Onanas per season, than the average mid-table club!

We've also given away a number of players for nothing at contract end, and still have more that will be leaving on frees. On the plus side we've done some shrewd business recently on incoming players, with big constraints on us but there's a huge amount of work to be done.

The quality in the squad is down to bare bones and wasn't good at the start of this period, as we finished 16th. Expectation must be tempered against the realities of the situation we're in.

Spot on Cods, challenge we have is that a lot of our fans think we should be challenging for Europe and cups every year, when the reality is we have been lucky to still be in the premier league over the last few seasons.

We are where we are, we have the manager and the players for where we are and as much as it's frustrating, it's not Dyches fault, although he doesn't help himself sometimes with his stubbornness. We are not an attractive proposition for players right now even if we did have the money to complete with other clubs. Look at the players Palace are able to attract, plus they can offer a base in London which is a big attraction for foreign players.

Also remember when everyone slated Moyes for his stubbornness, but I bet we'd all kill for some of that stability and European qualification now. I know I would.

Shogun wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:02 pm I said he's loyal to Keane, not absolutely insane about him! He's brought Keane into the side twice until Keane's performances forced him to bring in Mina when Dyche first arrived and then later Branthwaite after he tried again. It's pretty obvious to anyone that Keane isn't cut out for starting at this club and the last 5 years have proven that. He's brought in a £20m CB and decided to go with Keane again even though he shouldn't have a future at this club anymore. If it's not loyalty then it must be stubbornness that he's going to get a tune out of him despite all the evidence contrary.

In fairness... All managers have blindspots to certain players. It's not only a Dyche thing.

He hasn’t played nearly enough to accuse him of having a blindspot.

He’ll be out the team soon as Brathwaite comes back, possible sooner.

He was dropped after two games last season and hardly seen again.

When dyche first came in he was soon dropped to 4th choice.

I remember everyone disagreeing with me when I said even coady was better than him, and Mina was hardly ever fit so it’s understandable why he played when dyche first took the job.

liamgt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:10 am Spot on Cods, challenge we have is that a lot of our fans think we should be challenging for Europe and cups every year, when the reality is we have been lucky to still be in the premier league over the last few seasons.

We are where we are, we have the manager and the players for where we are and as much as it's frustrating, it's not Dyches fault, although he doesn't help himself sometimes with his stubbornness. We are not an attractive proposition for players right now even if we did have the money to complete with other clubs. Look at the players Palace are able to attract, plus they can offer a base in London which is a big attraction for foreign players.

Also remember when everyone slated Moyes for his stubbornness, but I bet we'd all kill for some of that stability and European qualification now. I know I would.

I don’t know any Everton fan who thinks we should be challenging for Europe I know a lot that think dyche could be more flexible and open to a bit of change we spent money play the new players and give them their chance

liamgt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:10 am Spot on Cods, challenge we have is that a lot of our fans think we should be challenging for Europe and cups every year

Hands up if anyone here thinks this