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brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:12 pm I don't really like the term flap but I do still think there is a cheque in the post.

To not have a recognised RB capable of playing a season there is criminal. I don't want to hear that we do actually have options there because none of them are realistic options really, and how long everyone is happy watching Jake struggle on the ball and against wingers... we'll see.

The midfield, unless Röhl has something special for us, is really poor. It genuinely is a poor midfield that is one Gana Gueye injury suspension or international tournament away from falling apart completely. The James Garnnaisance will only stretch as far as the goodwill towards our wins will stretch. He's not a prem starting level midfielder in my opinion, but we're going to need him to be. Although many seem to be offering him up for shifts at Lb and RB despite the fact he was getting cooked at LB but okay. Tim is not a realistic starter, Charly, KDH, McNeil, Grealish, I put all of those in the 'maybe if we're playing a 3?' bracket of not really CMS but maybe if you have more in there they can, and Röhl we just do not know.

RW and pace was the two biggest stand out issues and we haven't solved either. We've moved Ndiaye over there to accommodate KDH and Grealish and he's just not as good as he could be over there. I know he's scored, more to the game etc.

Dibbling I love the signing but how much he can and will do for us here and now when times get tough I do not know.

Theres tougher times coming, happy to enjoy for now and hopefully keep the bounce going but it's extremely early to consider us out the mire and I still think the squad shape and quality is still really poor.

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:03 pm I 100% share your concerns and agree with them. But I’m also 100% sure that whilst we’ll have some shit games for those exact reasons, there will still be at least 5 or 6 teams who will not score as many goals as us and finish comfortably underneath us.

Whilst we don’t exactly have prolific firepower, I can see us scoring enough goals from different positions to win points.

brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:12 pm It's a nice thought Todd but -

Grealish - max prem goals in a year was 8, 5 years ago
KDH - Max prem goals 2
Dibling - 2
McNeil - hit 7 once with an xg of 3.5 (highest ever xg)

Ndiaye is our man here and I'm personally hoping he can hit 10-12, would be a huge achievement for him.

Easy to get carried away by the fact we scored 3 at the weekend but I see it as - we squeezed past an absolutely dog shit wolves side, and as soon as Gana went off we went to bits.

We are not stacked with goal threat despite the fact we looked good at the weekend.

brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:12 pm I don't really like the term flap but I do still think there is a cheque in the post.

To not have a recognised RB capable of playing a season there is criminal. I don't want to hear that we do actually have options there because none of them are realistic options really, and how long everyone is happy watching Jake struggle on the ball and against wingers... we'll see.

The midfield, unless Röhl has something special for us, is really poor. It genuinely is a poor midfield that is one Gana Gueye injury suspension or international tournament away from falling apart completely. The James Garnnaisance will only stretch as far as the goodwill towards our wins will stretch. He's not a prem starting level midfielder in my opinion, but we're going to need him to be. Although many seem to be offering him up for shifts at Lb and RB despite the fact he was getting cooked at LB but okay. Tim is not a realistic starter, Charly, KDH, McNeil, Grealish, I put all of those in the 'maybe if we're playing a 3?' bracket of not really CMS but maybe if you have more in there they can, and Röhl we just do not know.

RW and pace was the two biggest stand out issues and we haven't solved either. We've moved Ndiaye over there to accommodate KDH and Grealish and he's just not as good as he could be over there. I know he's scored, more to the game etc.

Dibbling I love the signing but how much he can and will do for us here and now when times get tough I do not know.

Theres tougher times coming, happy to enjoy for now and hopefully keep the bounce going but it's extremely early to consider us out the mire and I still think the squad shape and quality is still really poor.

fxceltic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:38 pm excluding the sky 6 or whoever, how many of the rest are "stacked with goal threats"? I think not many. Brighton dont score many, for example, and they finished 8th. Fulham? Nope. Palace? Nope. brentford, Bournemouth etc etc? You get the point

If we can retain our prior defensive solidity, circa 1.5 goals per game comfortably gets you top half and maybe europe

Compared to who we are reasonably seeking to compete with, the goal threat is probably OK - caveated with it being early days, of course, because clearly last year we were nowhere near 1.5 goals over the season. I could double caveat that by splitting out Dyche vs Moyes, but Im banging on now.

brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:13 pm Brighton had 3 on 10 last year, and scored more than 20 goals more than us.

Palace one on 14 and a couple of 8. They've lost one of those too.

Fulham more than ten more than us, one on 12, one on 9, one on 8.

Yeah it's a mixed bag throughout of course but I was responding specifically to Todd saying we've got goals throughout the team when I don't think by any measure we can say we do?

UnsyisaRhino wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:48 pm I think your nearer the dark end of spectrum rather than offering a balanced perspective.

Ndaiye's move and the review garners performance at left back are paticularly negative.

We're not worse off anywhere, have shifted dead wood and have brought in genuine footballers and some exciting prospects.

The right back and holding midfielder problem is still a problem, but we atleast have some solutions in other areas and we haven't had that for years.

Shogun wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:17 pm Gutted KDH only going to score 1 more goal this season

fxceltic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:22 pm sure, but re my point about moyes vs dyche, moyes got them scoring double, almost exactly, what dyche achieved in the same number of games

and i would be pretty clear this squad has at least, if not more than, the goals last years team had in it. Extrapolate that and we are right up with Brighton (who had the most of that group)

brap[emoji638] wrote:
But he doesn't have a demonstrable history of past scoring in the prem.

StirlingBlue wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:37 pm To be fair, he doesn’t have a demonstrable history of playing as an attacking midfielder in the prem, the only time he’s played there regularly is in the championship where he bagged twelve

brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:12 pm I don't really like the term flap but I do still think there is a cheque in the post.

To not have a recognised RB capable of playing a season there is criminal. I don't want to hear that we do actually have options there because none of them are realistic options really, and how long everyone is happy watching Jake struggle on the ball and against wingers... we'll see.

The midfield, unless Röhl has something special for us, is really poor. It genuinely is a poor midfield that is one Gana Gueye injury suspension or international tournament away from falling apart completely. The James Garnnaisance will only stretch as far as the goodwill towards our wins will stretch. He's not a prem starting level midfielder in my opinion, but we're going to need him to be. Although many seem to be offering him up for shifts at Lb and RB despite the fact he was getting cooked at LB but okay. Tim is not a realistic starter, Charly, KDH, McNeil, Grealish, I put all of those in the 'maybe if we're playing a 3?' bracket of not really CMS but maybe if you have more in there they can, and Röhl we just do not know.

RW and pace was the two biggest stand out issues and we haven't solved either. We've moved Ndiaye over there to accommodate KDH and Grealish and he's just not as good as he could be over there. I know he's scored, more to the game etc.

Dibbling I love the signing but how much he can and will do for us here and now when times get tough I do not know.

Theres tougher times coming, happy to enjoy for now and hopefully keep the bounce going but it's extremely early to consider us out the mire and I still think the squad shape and quality is still really poor.