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Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:01 am
by TheRam
I think a lot of managers like easing new signings in at the start of the season so he’s not unique in that.

But he is overly cautious in how he picks his teams in general.

It’s why I don’t think lindstrom will do well here. I can’t see Sean dyche trusting him to play over Harrison or McNeil.

It will be another Danjuma situation. I’am certain of that.

This is where he lets himself down. Sometimes you have to sacrifice a few yards going backwards to be better going forwards.

We have very good defenders and a great goalkeeper. We can leave them a little bit more exposed to have better quality going forward.

Felt like Brighton were happy to leave Harrison in acres of space at the weekend, knowing we’d play the obvious ball and he’d do nothing with it.

Doucoure over the ill man I get, especially against Brighton.

Keane over Obrien was just ridiculous. Again, I get the logic, but Keane is absolutely done as an Everton player. Whilst I imagine obrien will have mistakes in his game, as least there’s an upside of a player who can grow and develop.

This is the one massive flaw in how dyche manages.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:24 am
by 777Kidnappings
Kerryblueboy wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:46 am I don’t know any Everton fan who thinks we should be challenging for Europe I know a lot that think dyche could be more flexible and open to a bit of change we spent money play the new players and give them their chance
Beyond any of that though keeping us up with no signings and dcl injured was impressive. Beyond any of that 48 points last season was impressive. Seems like small complaints when the end result are him doing a good job

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:25 am
by Granite
They talked a lot of sense on the American Toffee Podcast.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:26 am
by 777Kidnappings
brap2 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:59 am Hands up if anyone here thinks this
Maybe not that but an awful lot think dyche and his football is beneath us. That dyche is lucky to be here. It appears to be based on what we were historically rather than what we are now

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:33 am
by Granite
People seem to think we should be kicking on: Dyche has been here a while and made a few signings etc. But we haven’t signed anyone who’s moved the needle. Palace sold JOB for a million, last season. Illy and Linsdtrom failed at their last clubs. Harrison is a warm body. Nothing’s changed in my book. Our squad is miles off likes of Bournemouth, West Ham or Fulham - teams are we’d expect to beat and finish above. Our spend over the last 5 years is less than a lot of Championship clubs.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 am
by Kerryblueboy
Granite wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:33 am People seem to think we should be kicking on: Dyche has been here a while and made a few signings etc. But we haven’t signed anyone who’s moved the needle. Palace sold JOB for a million, last season. Illy and Linsdtrom failed at their last clubs. Harrison is a warm body. Nothing’s changed in my book. Our squad is miles off likes of Bournemouth, West Ham or Fulham - teams are we’d expect to beat and finish above. Our spend over the last 5 years is less than a lot of Championship clubs.
Palace sold him 3 years ago to Belgium then Lyon bought him start of last season but don’t bother with the facts if they don’t suit your narrative

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:50 am
by Granite
Laziest farmer in Ireland. Get off the forum and do some work 😂

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:54 am
by Granite
Kerryblueboy wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 am Palace sold him 3 years ago to Belgium then Lyon bought him start of last season but don’t bother with the facts if they don’t suit your narrative
And he was on loan in Belgium. Palace sold him last year to Lyon.

I’d probably have started him against Brighton, but he looked lost against Roma.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:02 am
by Kerryblueboy
Granite wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:54 am And he was on loan in Belgium. Palace sold him last year to Lyon.

I’d probably have started him against Brighton, but he looked lost against Roma.
He has to play to get better we know what Keane is about like someone else said in a better run club Keane holgate and young would be out the door I thought he did ok against Roma but that’s dyche way although he seems to have put Tim in at the deep end straight away

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:30 am
by AjaxAndy
I didn't watch the game as away but was Keane actually at fault for any of the goals outside of the idea when he plays everyone's game drops multiple levels?

Would playing JOB have affected the result in any way?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 1:23 pm
by brap2
Can I just say I don't personally think getting pumped at home to Brighton is that bad, we won't be the only side they turn over.

I just do not like the man, or the wider malaise he represents, even if I can acknowledge he is one of the few things standing between us and obliteration.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:41 pm
by Raptor
AjaxAndy wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:30 am I didn't watch the game as away but was Keane actually at fault for any of the goals outside of the idea when he plays everyone's game drops multiple levels?

Would playing JOB have affected the result in any way?
It's a team game, so it's hard to attribute fault unless it's a real clanger, but 2 of the goals he was close to the action where I think he could've made a more positive impact, but he and Tarks kept backing off to the point the striker had little choice but to pass the ball into the net

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:58 pm
by Kerryblueboy
He does like a good back off does Keane goes well in reverse

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:26 pm
by Silas
Like a lot of managers he trusts who he trusts and it is a flaw. Never with injuries but to see the best or the new players probably will need something enforced.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:36 pm
by Toddacelli
I like him.

I think he is extremely limited and I also think that he is acutely aware of his own limitations. Because of this he tries to be super-pragmatic and place enormous importance on things like fitness and the basics. It also means he does things like let DCL fully recover before rushing him back because he would rather have a fit striker for the last 5 games than risk him for the last 10.

He plays totally safe, all the time and this can be seen in his over cautious tactics, his sticking with his favourites and his late and limited substitutions.

He is what he is, but right now he’s the right man for the job. Until the boardroom shit gets sorted and Thelwell starts delivering a squad for the future, he’ll do.