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Jamokachi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:24 am Was always the plan. Initial pitch was laid in order to get the test events done but as it was grown over winter it wasn't grown to its optimal specification. Taking it up and relaying it now allows growing in spring and summer, meaning it will be at its best for the start of next season. They haven't taken up the woven fibres, just the grass.

I don't pretend to be any sort of a pitch expert but I thought the grass grew through the woven fibres so I thought the whole lot would have to come up.

Mind you, given the drama I had trying to get turf to take on the back lawn, they probably know better than me.

CannockPricey wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:14 pm I don't pretend to be any sort of a pitch expert but I thought the grass grew through the woven fibres so I thought the whole lot would have to come up.

Mind you, given the drama I had trying to get turf to take on the back lawn, they probably know better than me.

Seems the SIS fibres get stiched in much deeper than the topsoil/upper rootzone, allowing them to replace only that - see the animation down the page here:

https://www.sispitches.com/surface/hybrid-grass/

BTW my lawn is a patchy nightmare at the moment, thanks to that winning combination of loads of moss (which I've removed by scarifying) and loads of local wood pigeons (who are helpfully removing all the grass seed I sow).

My lawns a complete mosspit.

Mrs isn't bothered by it but it drives me mad.

Do I buy a scarifier, do I sign up to a lawn management plan with green thumb or someone, or do I just mow it and ignore the moss

brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:32 pm My lawns a complete mosspit.

Mrs isn't bothered by it but it drives me mad.

Do I buy a scarifier, do I sign up to a lawn management plan with green thumb or someone, or do I just mow it and ignore the moss

I bought one as the bounce was driving me mad, and it's even more satisfying than mowing the lawn, but it's incredible the amount of moss and old grass thatch that gets lifted. I lost count of the number of bags/green wheelie bins I filled.

Trowel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:45 pm I bought one as the bounce was driving me mad, and it's even more satisfying than mowing the lawn, but it's incredible the amount of moss and old grass thatch that gets lifted. I lost count of the number of bags/green wheelie bins I filled.

Done it with a rake the last two years and it's been a very very hard graft, filled endless bins and probably lifted 10% of the moss and thatch.

Bit of lawn weed and feed kills the moss, something like Miracle Grow 4 in 1, rake it out then a month or two later give it another feed if needed. It looks shite at first but once it's done the grass will be far greener and it should keep the moss away, maybe even give another go around September to keep the moss away in winter. I cut the lawn a lot without the collection bucket on, the cut grass mulches then acts as a compost.

Probably one for Lizz's gardening thread this.

Gash wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:04 pm Bit of lawn weed and feed kills the moss, something like Miracle Grow 4 in 1, rake it out then a month or two later give it another feed if needed. It looks shite at first but once it's done the grass will be far greener and it should keep the moss away, maybe even give another go around September to keep the moss away in winter. I cut the lawn a lot without the collection bucket on, the cut grass mulches then acts as a compost.

Probably one for Lizz's gardening thread this.

Apologies. I derailed it by misunderstanding the woven synthetic grass technology and we appear to have more lawn enthusiasts (of varying degrees of ability - I am below average) than I thought likely.

brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:58 pm Done it with a rake the last two years and it's been a very very hard graft, filled endless bins and probably lifted 10% of the moss and thatch.

Abs for days

Gash wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:04 pm Bit of lawn weed and feed kills the moss, something like Miracle Grow 4 in 1, rake it out then a month or two later give it another feed if needed. It looks shite at first but once it's done the grass will be far greener and it should keep the moss away, maybe even give another go around September to keep the moss away in winter. I cut the lawn a lot without the collection bucket on, the cut grass mulches then acts as a compost.

Probably one for Lizz's gardening thread this.

Does this also work when your dog pisses all over it?

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:21 pm Does this also work when your dog pisses all over it?

It does if you stop your dog pissing all over it.

Gash wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:31 pm It does if you stop your dog pissing all over it.

Would love to hear how you do that. He goes out before work, mid morning, lunchtime, mid afternoon, after work and he still does it.

We’ve discussed it till I’m blue in the face but he just keeps looking at me like he doesn’t understand.

I have a full watering can on standby at all times. I’m hoping diluting it will help but I’ve no fucking idea.

Trowel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:23 pm BTW my lawn is a patchy nightmare at the moment, thanks to that winning combination of loads of moss (which I've removed by scarifying) and loads of local wood pigeons (who are helpfully removing all the grass seed I sow).

I re-seeded mine a few weeks ago... Bought scare tape and then strung a load of twine across the garden and put the tape on to scare the birds off. Seems to have worked great for keeping them away.

brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:32 pm My lawns a complete mosspit.

Mrs isn't bothered by it but it drives me mad.

Do I buy a scarifier, do I sign up to a lawn management plan with green thumb or someone, or do I just mow it and ignore the moss

I’m in my “lawn dad era”. Cut it short. Scarify it both directions twice. Darlac is good manual brand or wolf-garten is even better. After that aerate and brush sharp sand into it. Wet it down and seed and fertilise it. Then cover with it with topsoil or whatever. Level it as best you can and scatter more soil to hid the seeds. Stamp it down nice and compact. Keep it nice and damp for then next two weeks.

If you have pigeons mooching around buy a cheap bird feeder and pop it the side of the garden. You won’t get rid of them but you can manage them.

Germination sheet you need, 1-2 weeks and you’ll have the start of a great lawn and the birds can’t get the seeds either.