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Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:02 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
I think we'd likely see some of the same issues/challenges regardless of manager.

It's hard to know how many of his decisions are him doing exactly what he wants to do, and how much is he doing because he feels like he only has bad choices.

I do think he's getting some things wrong, mainly his use of strikers, but he's always been someone who's low risk and slow to trust which is why we're seeing the same options used over and over again in attack.

Charlie is a great example, he offers something we desperately need, but also makes a decision or takes a risk that none of the other 3 would. His slip against leeds probably cemented him as 'not ready yet' in Moyes' eyes.

Edit - insane typos.

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:29 pm
by brap2
Defense and midfield both old as fuck yet we're just above the relly jelly in xga


Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:43 pm
by Bluebridge
Shogun wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:52 pm Moyes does feel like the wrong man. Anzou, Barry, Dibling... Not one of them has he been able to get quality out of so far. When you look at the work he's done with the England U21s, I can't help but think Carsley could have been the right man for the job.

And yes, I know he'd have been a big risk and I know it would have been 'mental'. Not quite as mental as Brentford giving their set piece coach the main gig though.
I think Brentford had identified their next manager knowing Frank would be in demand, got him in and gave him the title of set piece coach, their way of forward thinking. Very clever, yet very simple.

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:45 pm
by brap2
I would honestly rather how Brentford handled Set Piece Coach to Coach than how we handled Charlie Adam to Set Piece Coach.

What an embarrassing debacle that was.

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:46 pm
by Bluebridge
ilikebrunettesisback wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:50 pm Whats more likely is we have a manager thats not very good...

Since he left us:

Utd - SACKED
Sociedad - SACKED
Sunderland - SACKED
West Ham - SACKED X 2
Majority of managers good and bad - SACKED

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:54 pm
by Bluebridge
brap2 wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:45 pm I would honestly rather how Brentford handled Set Piece Coach to Coach than how we handled Charlie Adam to Set Piece Coach.

What an embarrassing debacle that was.
That was a weird appointment.

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 7:38 pm
by TheRam
brap2 wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 6:29 pm Defense and midfield both old as fuck yet we're just above the relly jelly in xga

Partly set up, party Keane and tarkowski being a horrible partnership.

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:26 pm
by Escalator
Can somebody explain to me how expected goals against is even calculated or is it just plain AI ?

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:33 pm
by Escalator
ilikebrunettesisback wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:50 pm Whats more likely is we have a manager thats not very good...

Since he left us:

Utd - SACKED
Sociedad - SACKED
Sunderland - SACKED
West Ham - SACKED X 2
FFS, how many managers have been sacked from United since Moyes ? He was mad to go to Sociadad, Sunderland, no idea, wasn’t following him or Sunderland, West Ham, didn’t he get them into Europe and what you call the second sacking was just an end of contract thing ?

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 9:11 pm
by StirlingBlue
Escalator wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:26 pm Can somebody explain to me how expected goals against is even calculated or is it just plain AI ?
It's the total of xG of the opponents in the matches that you've had so far - so calculated the same way as xG

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:38 pm
by Escalator
StirlingBlue wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 9:11 pm It's the total of xG of the opponents in the matches that you've had so far - so calculated the same way as xG
Thanks !

Re: David Moyes

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:06 pm
by sam of the south
ilikebrunettesisback wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:08 pm Pmsl... They were league champions when Moyes took over. Complete rewriting of history.
Yeah, and they were dreadful champions, Van Persie carried them that season.

I’m not saying he did even a remotely good job, but it was a poisoned chalice.