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With a shoestring budget compared to most of the managers that followed, Moyes did a remarkable job when you look at our league positions during his reign:

01/02 - 15th
02/03 - 7th
03/04 - 17th
04/05 - 4th
06/07 - 7th
07/08 - 5th
08/09 - 5th
09/10 - 8th
10/11 - 7th
11/12 - 7th
12/13 - 6th

Aside from 01/02 (when he took over with only 9 games to go) and 03/04, that’s a very decent record (especially when you look at our net transfer spend over that period). He wasn’t perfect by any means (‘bottling it in big games’ as others have pointed out). But if someone offered me a top ten finish for the next five seasons I would snatch their hand off!

Raptor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:43 am Why do you think its the best option under the circumstances?

Because I think it’s a better option than just letting things drift with Baines and Coleman, how many immediately available options are out there ? We lose half of our 1st team squad in four months time and I would like to see some planning starting now with Thelwell.

If we did have Baines and Coleman then at least the latter would be earning his wage

When Moyes left us he left the squad in pretty good shape for Roberto Martinez. When you look at what he inherited from Walter Smith it wasn’t great. Aging squad and not much attacking talent and he recruited amazingly well over time and got us at least competing again

If Moyes gets it and does a similar job I think we would all be pleased with that

At most an 18 month contract, with some break clauses in there.

I wouldn't remotely mind if he kept us safe this season, and we sacked him in the summer anyway, even if he did ok.

It's not glamorous or ideal, or even forward thinking bringing Moyes back.

But it is the right choice. Eager to hear the deal though. Do hope it's only until the end of the season.

Shogun wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:46 am For me... Recent PL experience and had good seasons at West Ham. Has a history of being able to play half-decent football with limited teams. He's not attached to any other club at the moment. Obviously does have a history with the club, however much that is worth.

I think any other coach brings more risk that isn't really worth taking at this juncture of the season.

Thats fair enough, I dont see it that way at all. I mentioned before just replicating Dyche form would keep us up, but he has been sacked cause it wasnt good enough, so by definition we think most other managers should be able to do better, and I honestly think they would. He also got let go by West Ham casue the football was dire, and this with a much better squad than he'd have here

He has a history with the club, but thats part of the issue for me, plus, it was over 10 years ago, is anyone there that wouldve been there under his tenure beyond Coleman? Its a marmite appointment in a time we need unity.

This strikes me as the most lazy, unambitious, and worse statement any new ownership could look to make and something they dont even believe in, hence trying to get him to sign a 6 month deal

Shogun wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:46 am For me... Recent PL experience and had good seasons at West Ham. Has a history of being able to play half-decent football with limited teams. He's not attached to any other club at the moment. Obviously does have a history with the club, however much that is worth.

I think any other coach brings more risk that isn't really worth taking at this juncture of the season.

Yep you can appoint a Carsley or Rohl in the summer, sack them by Xmas and still stay up... But you can't appoint them in Jan, sack them in March and still stay up. People like that'd just be way to risky at this stage of the season with us where we are.

Cozzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:51 am It's not glamorous or ideal, or even forward thinking bringing Moyes back.

But it is the right choice. Eager to hear the deal though. Do hope it's only until the end of the season.

He would never agree to a four month contract, too much pride for that and too much money in the bank to be that desperate.

Escalator wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:48 am Because I think it’s a better option than just letting things drift with Baines and Coleman, how many immediately available options are out there ? We lose half of our 1st team squad in four months time and I would like to see some planning starting now with Thelwell.

So to help that planning it would be good to appoint a manager on a 6 month contract that has a history of not wanting to work with a DoF?

Raptor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:51 am
This strikes me as the most lazy, unambitious, and worse statement any new ownership could look to make and something they dont even believe in, hence trying to get him to sign a 6 month deal

It's clearly not what they wanted to do. They wanted to back Dyche to keep us safe this season, and then send him on his way. But his results have been so disastrous and reportedly his attitude has been so bad that their hand has been forced.

Moyes would just be a temporary placeholder (unless he massively overachieves). They just want to keep Prem safety. Imagine they appointed Carsley or Danny Rohl in mid season and we got relegated. It would be disastrous.

None of us want Moyes, but as a temporary fix, it's perfectly understandable.

Raptor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:51 am Thats fair enough, I dont see it that way at all. I mentioned before just replicating Dyche form would keep us up, but he has been sacked cause it wasnt good enough, so by definition we think most other managers should be able to do better, and I honestly think they would. He also got let go by West Ham casue the football was dire, and this with a much better squad than he'd have here

He has a history with the club, but thats part of the issue for me, plus, it was over 10 years ago, is anyone there that wouldve been there under his tenure beyond Coleman? Its a marmite appointment in a time we need unity.

This strikes me as the most lazy, unambitious, and worse statement any new ownership could look to make and something they dont even believe in, hence trying to get him to sign a 6 month deal

What makes yo so sure Dyche would have kept us up ? Really don’t get this “he only knows Coleman” thing, are we looking for a manager that knows a few more of our players ? There’s plenty out there.

I don't even feel it's that safe but hopefully I can read up a bit today and start feeling more comfortable.

I'm not sure they'll want him long term and I'm not sure he'll be happy playing firefighter, he's a proud man.

Raptor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:53 am So to help that planning it would be good to appoint a manager on a 6 month contract that has a history of not wanting to work with a DoF?

It’s never going to be a four month contract though so no issue there.

brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:03 am I don't even feel it's that safe but hopefully I can read up a bit today and start feeling more comfortable.

I'm not sure they'll want him long term and I'm not sure he'll be happy playing firefighter, he's a proud man.

He'll be here to lead us out in to the new stadium (if we do indeed get Moyes). There's no way he'll agree to come and not be here for that.

He'll be on a 2.5 year deal or he won't be here imo.