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Leicester some jokers threatening to sue us and fucked up their own accounts

bigmanbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:33 pm Eh? What do you mean by that?

I think that there's a good chance this changes football significantly. I honestly don't know if this is what the game needed? But it seems like it will be very effective financial control and probably put an end to billionaire patronage.

Sadly yes the big clubs will continue to win everything and the only way to compete is through the spurs model or the Brighton model, and even then you're not really competing, and I think those models will be more difficult when everyone adjusts to the new reality which is - your football club needs to be an exceptional business - but it will curb rampant spending and debilitating wages.

The big casualty will be Chelsea I think, as long as the prem hold their nerve, Chelsea will suffer badly from this over the next 5 years.

Haha! See you in hell, Leicester

Maybe they’d spent the £300 million thry thought they were getting from us.

Karma or what

NickNack wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:08 pm Maybe they’d spent the £300 million thry thought they were getting from us.

Karma or what

Klarna from here on.

It will undoubtedly make an already uncompetitive league less competitive.

If you bring in a salary cap in sports, you can create competition and improve the product and unpredictability.

If you throw open the doors to rampant capitalism, it will be much less competitive but every now and again a Chelsea, a City or latterly a Newcastle might spring out of the pack.

If you go with these PSR schemes and decide to live by them, you will absolutely lock in uncompetitiveness. The biggest clubs (those with the biggest global income) will be allowed by the rules to outspend all competitors in perpetuity and what has been a de facto cabal at the top will become a cabal authorised by the authorities and even the pipe dream of breaking into it disappears.

They will dress it up as "no more Burys, Macclesfields etc" but that is a smokescreen. It'll do nothing to protect the lower levels but it panders to the whims of the big five and Spurs scumbags who tried to waltz off into a European league by basically ensuring their place at the top for ever more.

I don't see any way this benefits clubs outside the elite. Logically over a period of time it probably sees Sheff Wed, Sunderland, Leeds etc replace Bmouth, Brentford, Luton etc in the PL but for Arsenal, United, Lpool etc this must be an absolute dream.

brap2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:13 pm I think that there's a good chance this changes football significantly. I honestly don't know if this is what the game needed? But it seems like it will be very effective financial control and probably put an end to billionaire patronage.

Sadly yes the big clubs will continue to win everything and the only way to compete is through the spurs model or the Brighton model, and even then you're not really competing, and I think those models will be more difficult when everyone adjusts to the new reality which is - your football club needs to be an exceptional business - but it will curb rampant spending and debilitating wages.

The big casualty will be Chelsea I think, as long as the prem hold their nerve, Chelsea will suffer badly from this over the next 5 years.

It’s so good they’re going to change it as soon as possible to something else

Chelsea will be fine when it changes to revenue based, they just need to push it back until then

Next step is ffp will drive down the prices the other 14 can get for their stars. Further increasing the gap between them and the top 6.

This isn't remotely good for football. Everton, West ham, Newcastle (unless they cheat ffp) villa. Big clubs all apart from us doing okay at the moment..... might not win a domestic trophy in another 50 years.

It's not good for football. Its without genuine hope.

It's so effective that it was activated in 2013, has been completely ignored by clubs and the Premier League for 10 years, the league got heavily threatened with an independent regulator because, among other things, it wasn't being applied or used, and they quickly cobbled together a couple of cases against clubs with limited influence, while ignoring the significant misdeeds of the league's major revenue drivers.

It's the most token, ineffective regulation framework you could possibly imagine. It's anti-competition and it embeds a football caste system in the Premier League permanently. It pulls up the drawbridge forever.

Something is definitely needed to stop vastly rich states from buying football clubs and destroying all competition, but this definitely wasn't or isn't it.

It's not ineffective is it because we are literally seeing the effects in real time. The clubs getting hit by it are criminally poorly ran enterprises.

January spend for Prem was just £96m - 8x less than the previous year. Newcastle stopped in their tracks.

Is it going to make a competitive Eutopia where everyone has an equal opportunity to win titles, and success is won on the pitch not in the wage bills - no, but the vast majority of titles have been won by the monied few for the vast majority of the sports history, including when we bought titles, including when united bought titles, and including now city are currently buying titles.

I personally am thinking more and more...who gives a shit just let people spend? I don't care, ban the Arab nations and russian oligarchs if you want but do it with your chest rather than dressing it up as financial control.

But genuinely this PSR suddenly growing claws might be a formative change for football over the next decade. Clubs will have to become good at generating revenue and balancing their recruitment costs.

Good thing for us is if we get out the woods we are about to expand our revenue base massively, and we are doing everything we can to shrink our wage responsibilities ahead of that, which puts us in a hopefully good position.

That said, it's also a fucking mess. The way it's being enforced feels completely insane and unlike anything we've ever seen. What would public opinion be like if it was the top 3 that were facing deductions that went beyond the end of the season?

Totally Football did about as long on Forests deduction as they did on St Kitts beating San Marino. Generally they agreed it's a bit mad but clubs agreed to the rules so they deserve to be punished even if it feels a bit mad.

Leicesters argument is based on “we were relegated so didn’t think we had to submit accounts for the latest season as the rules don’t apply to us anymore”

Cereal Killer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:58 am Leicesters argument is based on “we were relegated so didn’t think we had to submit accounts for the latest season as the rules don’t apply to us anymore”

Which, no longer being under the jurisdiction of the PL, i think is perfectly fair.


But the fact the rules are so open to interpretation says everything you need to know.
Will the EFL also have to sanction Leicester next year if they break their, harsher, rules this year?

I’d imagine that they would have a hanging -x point deduction waiting for them, should they return to the top flight.

Cereal Killer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:58 am Leicesters argument is based on “we were relegated so didn’t think we had to submit accounts for the latest season as the rules don’t apply to us anymore”

I admire their cheek in using the exact opposite argument to respond to the EFL's charges.