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Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:46 pm
by Trowel
I think the team will turn the results around given the upcoming fixtures, but Dyche is continuing to show his management flaws - tactics we all knew about, man management we've heard snippets of, and game management... there for all to see.

What's especially frustrating is the way this coincides with our ongoing ownership issues combined with the current availability of some decent out of work coaches, so we've not even got anyone at the club to examine the evidence and make a decision.

Although it should, I can't imagine Kevin's remit extends to allowing him to sack Dyche.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:51 pm
by Cereal Killer
Shogun wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:00 pm Conceded 3 goals in our last 6 matches of last season. Bring Big Mick into the side and we concede 10 in 3.

No idea why he's not playing O'Brien. Before anyone starts about Keane not making mistakes and playing okay, Bournemouth just scored three goals in the last 10 minutes including 2 free headers.
Is it me or does Pickford go to shit when Keane is playing?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:54 pm
by Kerryblueboy
His in game management is brutal any competent coach would have shut up shop there today put on the defenders close it out we need dcl and now ndayie on the pitch as long as possible because Beto can’t hold up the ball and ndayie buys you time and minds the ball I’m done with dyche because I can’t see him changing which will be his downfall

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:25 pm
by Big Nevs Vaz
The back 4 has been picked apart first 3 games. It hasn’t been protected and we have made individual mistakes. First job is stop leaking goals. The hope is Branthwaite or O’Brien just slot in instead of Keane and everything clicks but that is just wishful thinking. Gana and Tim are porous. Gana’s legs are gone and Tim has a lot to learn positionally as much as I love his tenacity and forward impetus. All needs sorting very quickly. I don’t know if we have the personnel to sort it and I’m not sure Dyche knows either. Maybe Mangala will tighten it up.


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Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:28 pm
by toffee_scot
Feels like the beginning of the end of Dyche's tenure as Everton manager.

If Moyes comes in to replace him then so be it, it's not like there are people in the club with much of a progressive forward thinking mindset until the Moshiri regime is over.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:34 pm
by Dchans
Realistically he probably gets the two away games to Villa and Leicester, and the home game against palace.

If we are still fucked at that point he has to go as the next few games after that are also on the kind side and gives any incoming manager a decent crack at a good run.

No point him having all those games, being sacked and the new guy comes in just as the fixtures look wank.

Keane has to be dropped. And the midfield two must be more disciplined and sit, especially in the first half of the next two games. Keep us in them, and then look to counter etc

The cup game is a free hit, so play a different way or try something new there if you’re going to at all

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:40 pm
by Cantoffee
Looking back at that last 15 minutes it's crazy to me he didn't just close up shop after the first goal.

Really should have acted sooner and got Iroegbunam off for Garner and had Doucoure deeper to shore up the midfield.

But even after that first goal there was a chance to just shut up shop, get Obrien on and go 3 CBs, tell then all to head and kick everything out of the park (including the Bournemouth players) and probably end up winning.

Really consistently poor in game management. Way too late to make subs all the time. I respect letting the players work things out longer than some managers allow but he frequently uses 1 sub when our players run as much or more than any other team in the league.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:46 am
by Trowel
Not an ounce of humility in this clip from the presser, just threw the players under the bus instead


Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:21 am
by Toddacelli
Trowel wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:46 am Not an ounce of humility in this clip from the presser, just threw the players under the bus instead

He’s gone from ‘we’ to ‘they’.

Subtle, but distances himself from it.

Also, the ‘whatever you learn from me, the game lasts until the referee blows his whistle’ is a sly ‘I did my bit but you still have to do yours’.

Not a good look Sean.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:37 am
by blueforyou
He's fuming, players let him down

Concentrate

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:20 am
by 74Blue
"I could smell it"
You still had options on the bench you ginger prick, so why didn't you change it then?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:44 am
by Cereal Killer
Trowel wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:46 am Not an ounce of humility in this clip from the presser, just threw the players under the bus instead

Did anyone challenge him on why he didn’t use any of the other subs then if he could ‘smell’ it?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:46 am
by Juanito
blueforyou wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:37 am He's fuming, players let him down

Concentrate
He let himself down. He doesn’t concentrate enough in his in game management or consult his assistants enough.

I woke up at 3am angry he didn’t make changes at 65 mins and the fact he never does. At 80 mins there were four of five of them that couldn’t run. Iraola is a highly rated manager, who made four attacking subs and completely destroyed us. That’s one manager completely destroying another, tactically, in what should have been game set match, Dyche. We ain’t getting a Iraola, unfortunately.

This presser, the arrogance. I want him gone now and yes, would be happy with Moyes in. One thing about Moyes, he never threw players under the bus when it was his fault. He had a refreshing honesty about him.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:55 am
by Free Agent
I honestly don’t care what he does/says in a presser - that means nothing. But not making the blindingly obvious subs when required - thats 100% on him.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:18 am
by Raptor
74Blue wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:20 am "I could smell it"
You still had options on the bench you ginger prick, so why didn't you change it then?
This is it for me, everyone around me could see that Tim was fucked, everything was last minute and even his passing was laboured from about 70, yet he kept him on. Tim didn't go with his man for 2 of the goals, I think, but he shouldn't have been on the pitch. Taking off Ndiaye and bringing on that clown Doucoure was also a fuck up, get Garner on and shut up shop, even go to 3 at the back. The players have to do better, 100%, but so does the manager